Return-Path: <mus@musalbas.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2957BEA for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 23:01:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from science.musalbas.com (science.musalbas.com [195.154.112.130]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5CD107 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 23:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.7.0.6] (unknown [10.7.0.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by science.musalbas.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A4CC6A09B2; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 23:01:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=musalbas.com; s=mail; t=1459810904; bh=P5Ih1nYOVkVRmr0laA9P8+xs8d5Ql1wjZ+DUZyAn6q4=; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=GCy0ouAeycyfHd0+/wh23nAkKmPU8zpTihpNoBgzkDZihjHvpM8jjwBdydDM1T2ar 1RoxGQYaPOeEjmx65jYQmOJZNsUp81E2QKoaw3qPivkCqNWlR9GBbc1pc1kyOHSkbs /mhSmqB+7ARu8DAFKqzaQFZ3mfLiK5OyvxR1HbcI= To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>, Timo Hanke <timo.hanke@web.de> References: <CAH6h1Lu81Ot0xVb+n05zrtb7PqMAukvP3525rZ8STaq2tcfWNw@mail.gmail.com> <20160401090050.GA24677@savin.petertodd.org> From: Mustafa Al-Bassam <mus@musalbas.com> Message-ID: <5702F257.6010700@musalbas.com> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 00:01:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160401090050.GA24677@savin.petertodd.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000700040601080603040709" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 14:38:29 +0000 Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] AsicBoost X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 23:01:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000700040601080603040709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alternatively scenario: it will cause a sudden increase of Bitcoin mines in countries where the algorithm is not patented, possibly causing a geographical decentralization of miners from countries that already have a lot of miners like China (if it is patented in China). On 01/04/16 10:00, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 09:41:40PM -0700, Timo Hanke via bitcoin-dev wr= ote: >> Hi. >> >> I'd like to announce a white paper that describes a very new and >> significant algorithmic improvement to the Bitcoin mining process whic= h has >> never been discussed in public before. The white paper can be found he= re: >> >> http://www.math.rwth-aachen.de/~Timo.Hanke/AsicBoostWhitepaperrev5.pdf= > What steps are you going to take to make sure that this improvement is > available to all ASIC designers/mfgs on a equal opportunity basis? > > The fact that you've chosen to patent this improvement could be a > centralization concern depending on the licensing model used. For examp= le, one > could imagine a licensing model that gave one manufacture exclusive rig= hts. > > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev --------------000700040601080603040709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Alternatively scenario: it will cause a sudden increase of Bitcoin mines in countries where the algorithm is not patented, possibly causing a geographical decentralization of miners from countries that already have a lot of miners like China (if it is patented in China).<br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/04/16 10:00, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:20160401090050.GA24677@savin.petertodd.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 09:41:40PM -0700, Timo Hanke via bitcoin-dev wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi. I'd like to announce a white paper that describes a very new and significant algorithmic improvement to the Bitcoin mining process which has never been discussed in public before. The white paper can be found here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.math.rwth-aachen.de/~Timo.Hanke/AsicBoostWhitepaperrev5.pdf">http://www.math.rwth-aachen.de/~Timo.Hanke/AsicBoostWhitepaperrev5.pdf</a> </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> What steps are you going to take to make sure that this improvement is available to all ASIC designers/mfgs on a equal opportunity basis? The fact that you've chosen to patent this improvement could be a centralization concern depending on the licensing model used. For example, one could imagine a licensing model that gave one manufacture exclusive rights. </pre> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------000700040601080603040709--