Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Wi8SU-0000m7-Ta for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 07 May 2014 20:28:54 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.175; envelope-from=nelsoneci@gmail.com; helo=mail-ob0-f175.google.com; Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com ([209.85.214.175]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Wi8ST-0007io-Rs for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 07 May 2014 20:28:54 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id wo20so1878459obc.20 for ; Wed, 07 May 2014 13:28:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.79.9 with SMTP id f9mr12029056obx.64.1399494528336; Wed, 07 May 2014 13:28:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.14.65 with HTTP; Wed, 7 May 2014 13:28:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <536A8592.8010009@gmail.com> <536A902C.6080602@gmail.com> From: Nelson Castillo Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 15:28:28 -0500 Message-ID: To: Wladimir Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e40163a08b404f8d536b4 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (nelsoneci[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1Wi8ST-0007io-Rs Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Announcing the Statoshi fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 20:28:55 -0000 --047d7b2e40163a08b404f8d536b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wladimir wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jameson Lopp > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I agree that it would be awesome to offer these types of stats with the > installer; unfortunately the route I've taken has dependencies on several > other other pieces of software to do all the heavy lifting of stats > aggregation and chart rendering. I'm assuming that you would not want to > build any of that processing into Bitcoin Core itself; would you be opposed > to packaging other software along with the installer? > > Depends on just how much stuff it is. The idea is primarily to have an > installer for running a (wallet-less) node as an OS background > service. > > Having some statistics available would be worth some extra download > size, otherwise it would be pretty much invisible. > > We'd already decided that we would need something like Python for the > stats service. Implementing things like web services in C++ is just > not realistic given the time constraints and the great already-written > code that is out there. As an optional tool it should be external, not > part of bitcoind itself. > > I suppose the chart rendering happens client-side? In that case the > web service just has to collect and provide the data, and serve static > html/js files. > Is SNMP an option? That way you do not need to implement clients and there are many tools written. > Wladimir > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find > out: > • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity > • Requirements for releasing software faster > • Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --047d7b2e40163a08b404f8d536b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On W= ed, May 7, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> wrote= :
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
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> I agree that it would be awesome to offer these = types of stats with the installer; unfortunately the route I've taken h= as dependencies on several other other pieces of software to do all the hea= vy lifting of stats aggregation and chart rendering. I'm assuming that = you would not want to build any of that processing into Bitcoin Core itself= ; would you be opposed to packaging other software along with the installer= ?

Depends on just how much stuff it is. The idea is primarily to have a= n
installer for running a (wallet-less) node as an OS background
service.

Having some statistics available would be worth some extra download
size, otherwise it would be pretty much invisible.

We'd already decided that we would need something like Python for the stats service. Implementing things like web services in C++ is just
not realistic given the time constraints and the great already-written
code that is out there. As an optional tool it should be external, not
part of bitcoind itself.

I suppose the chart rendering happens client-side? In that case the
web service just has to collect and provide the data, and serve static
html/js files.

Is SNMP an option? That = way you do not need to implement clients and there are many tools written.<= /div>


Wladimir

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