Return-Path: <marek@palatinus.cz> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B608D932 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:44:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com (mail-wm0-f48.google.com [74.125.82.48]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C0721AD for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f48.google.com with SMTP id o80so23638801wme.1 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:44:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=palatinus-cz.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pUnWG+Tft37ek4NC28OaRcalnX5aTJ9BpRR539Mlxsc=; b=bTY736KQK/zkz2fSB5mx6F5p45aMWi4xU7pCWRoIhuTFygzL9WWomEQC9SWA7dtVVj 5xTq+5QkBbY6L7zQLqj9/pt4Nfx4+27nwlZTVNs3sUz6ILEzNc4tXkeWThvP0ciZOh6v 1VH3NZnpLGX4kcIjqBEtPkwDJkPCwgiovzNbVByZBFEXgujp8AkegttctVnOCNthttJ2 rGdeZgl6PIa7yYMSbGx0rLEkgsVfCC5juBQ9+MSYbmDFKo6pCoakx5Wh2yI5cgcpNgDP fSLMnDhrLA29r8noETQehyZYx3M36cMda4+z8bmn7Z5jbtITKvQ59z5xDXR4YS6P1lu4 852Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pUnWG+Tft37ek4NC28OaRcalnX5aTJ9BpRR539Mlxsc=; b=h9OXDoB4ZkvohVuLYYU5r8KaCwWfUwcDdNncSv8ti1f4jBc5y7L3mJaEfBiuYS4P4H Bp2OW8v9RmZa8GWz4CkdHpgd1aorc0bFPB1vMgK0mHtPY2h8IVmRm3ozhgOXEfH11Hh1 0oasN1oW0jAUnDS2zDHDnANS7RAVPe4GpXuNKLcTBqpr/tCXseMiutY6N8QT+8PEXP+z YBUtbrQLb11Yls0l3dWgG4R7lrp3IBDh7GGToB5/PGLHlQKE5UtUJ4pGpl6frvPp0CJg mN/+5jVbZjbIOVk7Yr1CIPNI4mjXCjC8FsIDR6UKftooYukOeixubwXoQhHf5eSKjxvj 31yw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoous3x+qOHrpwEsGv0QSyDIdX4ebUdTo7n+IDQRRiLF4yKXCI/U1XKjTPs+bqxuJ0P2hltNO2y40t4U0vcw== X-Received: by 10.28.197.129 with SMTP id v123mr1608581wmf.70.1471513443857; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:44:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.43.135 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:43:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57B58149.8000200@jonasschnelli.ch> References: <57B31EBC.1030806@jonasschnelli.ch> <e740b4e0-0597-4f80-2434-70e667b7923c@gmail.com> <9c8dd0e5-e333-90c8-965f-10fb29d875a5@thomaskerin.io> <57B4113E.4010502@jonasschnelli.ch> <D41B40FA-0C75-496D-937A-0DF733FB87E2@bitlox.com> <57B44BCB.3010400@jonasschnelli.ch> <CAJna-HhQred_E7PYRFmgzb_0gd2b+4qsFOWEGqBjfzX1PbhyxQ@mail.gmail.com> <57B55B8C.1070001@jonasschnelli.ch> <CAJna-Hi3a5mLBkXfS4Qa=kjFCj4=GVBr4WUDZ=Tg27iX=FiCJA@mail.gmail.com> <57B58149.8000200@jonasschnelli.ch> From: Marek Palatinus <marek@palatinus.cz> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:43:33 +0200 Message-ID: <CAJna-Hj8HQy9Dhx3Gx8CpmpgoiQZ2waaj9o5b6hHwda4Dm_fGw@mail.gmail.com> To: Jonas Schnelli <dev@jonasschnelli.ch> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0d4b761a947c053a556c16 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Hardware Wallet Standard X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:44:06 -0000 --94eb2c0d4b761a947c053a556c16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Jonas Schnelli <dev@jonasschnelli.ch> wrote: > I agree that BIP70 is a mess (including the bitcoin:// additions). The > proposed URI scheme would be completely different. This reminds me https://xkcd.com/927/ I have some experience with hardware wallet development and its integration and I know it's a mess. But it is too early to define such rigid standards yet. Also, TREZOR concept (device as a server and the primary source of workflow management) goes directly against your proposal of wallet software as an workflow manager. So it is clear NACK for me. slush --94eb2c0d4b761a947c053a556c16 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T= hu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Jonas Schnelli <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= =3D"mailto:dev@jonasschnelli.ch" target=3D"_blank">dev@jonasschnelli.ch</a>= ></span> wrote:</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gma= il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-le= ft-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I agree= that BIP70 is a mess (including the bitcoin:// additions).=C2=A0The propos= ed URI scheme would be completely different. </blockquote><div><br></div><d= iv>This reminds me <a href=3D"https://xkcd.com/927/">https://xkcd.com/927/<= /a></div><div><br></div><div>I have some experience with hardware wallet de= velopment and its integration and I know it's a mess. But it is too ear= ly to define such rigid standards yet. Also, TREZOR concept (device as a se= rver and the primary source of workflow management) goes directly against y= our proposal of wallet software as an workflow manager. So it is clear NACK= for me.</div><div><br></div><div>slush</div><div><br></div></div></div></d= iv> --94eb2c0d4b761a947c053a556c16--