Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C72488A for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2016 11:02:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-qt0-f170.google.com (mail-qt0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3327BAA for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2016 11:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-f170.google.com with SMTP id x25so201508034qtx.2 for ; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 04:01:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:cc; bh=HVdvnVHUv2A6bcaTOF6IBjNpi91OJXybQj7BGJxPgQQ=; b=k03c6pi43qvYlFxhy9adegjYCDmIDQKJj9NYhJFsPskDaRdGiVDABz1flaQf7sSt5M XISJU+t/s71+TwMeXIx7/T0tzUO9yKMr69/q4tgSeUmnd9X9Ke3Cn7osBt2UfACL14tr a30UPAHxzXEkaRl6FrIROXJIWlEkBZ3NQyDwM+hFa7zXbjzvSrYVznaNOhVavldPO6K7 /rY6avKYzbKYwFFDcrs25vxYUANUTjS0HvMNy2c08YGLvYF4K4U6/042cqQlayPezddp seWvZ9XlS9HnM3LFXvQlPbkO37xVVv2ffhI9gmK32E46Wausy6hn/wvIHybCrowbvQIi RW9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:cc; bh=HVdvnVHUv2A6bcaTOF6IBjNpi91OJXybQj7BGJxPgQQ=; b=ChXpcTwvfFMdp7UB4CmO1yyWnNctE++RKN3UUfTxb4T/3Qk4egE0t14HaZ2qWNrnso zr9DbR2ZsL3u41UBBRAiiUNrt0A8jq6AK3hsQpH/+Ksw1X7dCVUIbn+Qa2JjLhpuXpFt 3QLERDCUqIPzSLc8Z/mTrxsQgjXvYnvxRK0ZzccAndxLNKyn0mrpf6Fj0257U/ugVTnX wO2qpRSYvDSHVG3z+vMX+dHmvBz/osTGWyZR0R+P02W7WJtD1rWKseUywr1g4ySAPuVs /ZQDpfC8OmZxVtdlTlTUvXy7xXRYmRgPxK9pAv/bvRC8FRP6q+YnSq/Cg9oz4a0/0cib ut1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousqmuNhlNqVxiaNUoa6rMVpiRaL1MoYgDOS3vykM6EPh8wkBB9YIyD8pTmzA1tnTn8aqldmFd/fJpvoUQ== X-Received: by 10.237.35.201 with SMTP id k9mr26998098qtc.92.1470654118407; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 04:01:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.46.193 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Aug 2016 04:01:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0b314ab7-b5ec-3468-15d7-37e07a6b592c@sky-ip.org> From: Tier Nolan Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:01:57 +0100 Message-ID: Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1139659850b45a05398d58e3 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, MALFORMED_FREEMAIL, MISSING_HEADERS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP clearing house addresses X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 11:02:02 -0000 --001a1139659850b45a05398d58e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 With channels and the exchange acting as hub, you can do instant trades between altcoins. This doesn't work with fiat accounts. A "100% reserve" company could issue fiat tokens. The exchange could then trade those tokens. This eliminates the counter-party risk for the exchange. If the exchange dies, you still have your (alt)coins and also fiat tokens. There is still risk that the token company could go bankrupt though. This could be mitigated by that company requiring only "cashing out" tokens to accounts which have been verified. The company could set up a blockchain where it signed the blocks rather than mining and could get money from transaction fees and also minting fees (say it charges 1% for minting new tokens) I wonder what how the law would work for that. It isn't actually doing trading, it is just issuing tokens and redeeming them. --001a1139659850b45a05398d58e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
With channels and the exchange acting as hub, you can= do instant trades between altcoins.

This doesn't wor= k with fiat accounts.=C2=A0 A "100% reserve" company could issue = fiat tokens.=C2=A0 The exchange could then trade those tokens.

This eliminates the counter-party risk for the exchange.=C2=A0 If the= exchange dies, you still have your (alt)coins and also fiat tokens.
There is still risk that the token company could go bankrupt th= ough.=C2=A0 This could be mitigated by that company requiring only "ca= shing out" tokens to accounts which have been verified.

<= div>The company could set up a blockchain where it signed the blocks rather= than mining and could get money from transaction fees and also minting fee= s (say it charges 1% for minting new tokens)

I= wonder what how the law would work for that.=C2=A0 It isn't actually d= oing trading, it is just issuing tokens and redeeming them.
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