Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D83C0001 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297CA608D9 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:09:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.498 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nuyytpGQLhXd for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:09:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:09:39 by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from vm6.ganeti.dyne.org (vm6.ganeti.dyne.org [195.169.149.119]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9738360678 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: policeterror@dyne.org) with ESMTPSA id 11F15F606F3 To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org References: <20210426003640.2sjx4f35l3vdtxwe@ganymede> From: Amir Taaki Message-ID: <4def9376-03dc-3805-89ea-28bd78077084@dyne.org> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 11:52:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 11:59:14 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposed BIP editor: Kalle Alm X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:09:59 -0000 A committee to guide the committee? You guys truly have lost the plot. All the good minds and cryptographers have left Bitcoin. What remains is an empty echo chamber. Truth is these problems start with lack of vision and long-term roadmap, not with the processes themselves. And the Bitcoin Core monopoly created this situation; one coin, one client, one vision. And the inevitable infighting for ultimate power. Really if we want to go down this route, there should be a long period of self reflection about where the problems began rather than patching some process and moving on. I propose Bitcoin Core is dissolved as the official Bitcoin project. The community is free to elect their preferred version of Bitcoin. And most importantly, Bitcoin developers commit to a fully specced standard that all implementations move towards using. On 4/28/21 12:30 AM, Jaime Caring via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Kalle should not be made an editor by an ad-hoc process. I reiterate > Greg's NACK. > > I propose that we form a stewardship committee of frequent contributors, > including you, Greg, and 21 others. The stewards appoint a small set of > editors with permanent oversight by the stewards. A defined process > prevents this controversy from arising in the future and makes > proceedings clear. > > My proposal has been moderated off of this list, but may be viewed here: > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1113 > > > I care not for the role of initial transitory editor. I would be pleased > should any responsible community member shoulder this onus in my stead. > > Peace be upon you, > > JC > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 00:37, David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev > > wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 04:42:12AM +0000, Greg Maxwell via > bitcoin-dev wrote: > > I am opposed to the addition of Kalle Alm at this time.  Those who > > believe [this] will resolve the situation [...] re: PR1104 are > > mistaken. > > PR1104 has been merged.  Do you continue to oppose the addition? > > Thanks, > > -Dave > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >