Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6EEC002A for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 02:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8150C60FA3 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 02:27:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org 8150C60FA3 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IiGunChn-q_X for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 02:27:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org 712A660AF8 Received: from cerulean.erisian.com.au (azure.erisian.com.au [172.104.61.193]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 712A660AF8 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 02:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 60.42.96.58.static.exetel.com.au ([58.96.42.60] helo=sapphire.erisian.com.au) by cerulean.erisian.com.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ppK0z-0003Xy-Ud; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:27:19 +1000 Received: by sapphire.erisian.com.au (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:27:13 +1000 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:27:13 +1000 From: Anthony Towns To: Michael Folkson , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Spam_score: -1.0 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core maintainers and communication on merge decisions X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 02:27:24 -0000 On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:40:44PM +0000, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I do think the perception that it is “the one and only” staging > ground for consensus changes is dangerous If you think that about any open source project, the answer is simple: create your own fork and do a better job. Competition is the only answer to concerns about the bad effects from a monopoly. (Often the good effects from cooperation and collaboration -- less wasted time and duplicated effort -- turn out to outweigh the bad effects, however) In any event, inquisition isn't "the one and only staging ground for consensus changes" -- every successful consensus change to date has been staged through the developers' own repo then the core PR process, and that option still exists. Cheers, aj