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From: Mike Caldwell <mcaldwell@swipeclock.com>
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:50:10 -0400
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Subject: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 38
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Hey everyone,

I have noticed that there was a recent change to BIP 0038 (Password-Protect=
ed Private Key) on the Wiki, which is a proposal I wrote in late 2012.  Gre=
gory, it looks to me as though you have made this change, and I'm hoping fo=
r your help here.  The change suggests that the number was never assigned, =
and that there has been no discussion regarding the proposal on this list.

I had this number assigned by Amir Taaki in November of 2012, consistent wi=
th what I understood the procedure to be at the time by reading BIP 0001 on=
 the Wiki.

First off, I want to confirm that when I send to the list, that there isn't=
 a technical reason it's not getting to everybody.  I believe I most recent=
ly mentioned BIP 38 to this list on August 17, 2013. (EDIT: seems my prior =
messages, including an earlier revision of this message, have not made it t=
o the list)

Secondly, in the case that it is deemed that this has never been properly s=
ubmitted, discussed, or pushed forward, I'd like to propose that this happe=
n, and request help with the formalities where I'm lacking.

I believe BIP 38 is a valuable proposal that is seeing real-world use.  BIP=
 38 allows people to create private keys (including paper wallets) protecte=
d by a password, and also allows one party to select the password for paper=
 wallets to be created by another party.

Real-world use includes a working implementation at BitAddress.org, one at =
Bit2Factor.org, implementation by Mycelium, and others.  Also, others are i=
nformally using it as a sort of abbreviated escrow scheme where a buyer and=
 seller agree on the buyer maintaining control over the release of funds.  =
In short, it would be terribly confusing to reassign the number BIP 38 afte=
r already having had an established meaning for the better part of the year=
, particularly on what appears to be procedural grounds.

Mike


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p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
I have noticed that there was a recent change to BIP 0038 (Password-Protect=
ed Private Key) on the Wiki, which is a proposal I wrote in late 2012.&nbsp=
; Gregory, it looks to me as though you have made this change, and I&#8217;=
m hoping for your help here.&nbsp; The change suggests that the number was =
never assigned, and that there has been no discussion regarding the proposa=
l on this list.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I had this number assigned by Amir Taaki in November of 2=
012, consistent with what I understood the procedure to be at the time by r=
eading BIP 0001 on the Wiki.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>First off, I want to confirm that when I sen=
d to the list, that there isn&#8217;t a technical reason it&#8217;s not get=
ting to everybody.&nbsp; I believe I most recently mentioned BIP 38 to this=
 list on August 17, 2013. (EDIT: seems my prior messages, including an earl=
ier revision of this message, have not made it to the list)<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Secondly, in =
the case that it is deemed that this has never been properly submitted, dis=
cussed, or pushed forward, I&#8217;d like to propose that this happen, and =
request help with the formalities where I&#8217;m lacking.<o:p></o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I believe BIP =
38 is a valuable proposal that is seeing real-world use.&nbsp; BIP 38 allow=
s people to create private keys (including paper wallets) protected by a pa=
ssword, and also allows one party to select the password for paper wallets =
to be created by another party.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Real-world use includes a working impleme=
ntation at BitAddress.org, one at Bit2Factor.org, implementation by Myceliu=
m, and others. &nbsp;Also, others are informally using it as a sort of abbr=
eviated escrow scheme where a buyer and seller agree on the buyer maintaini=
ng control over the release of funds.&nbsp; In short, it would be terribly =
confusing to reassign the number BIP 38 after already having had an establi=
shed meaning for the better part of the year, particularly on what appears =
to be procedural grounds.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>=

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