Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WXQnl-0004cF-SK for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 07:50:37 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; envelope-from=mh.in.england@gmail.com; helo=mail-ob0-f176.google.com; Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com ([209.85.214.176]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXQnk-0000WD-TJ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 07:50:37 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id wp18so592000obc.21 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 00:50:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.50.163 with SMTP id d3mr1922210oeo.51.1396943431531; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 00:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mh.in.england@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.96.180 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 00:50:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53436977.4030808@jerviss.org> References: <53436977.4030808@jerviss.org> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 09:50:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Eeo-btNbfPBjVq9CoKl68f8Lv6g Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: kjj Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c309da02074404f6833dfc X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WXQnk-0000WD-TJ Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 07:50:38 -0000 --001a11c309da02074404f6833dfc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Multi-sig requires infrastructure. It isn't a magic wand that we can > wave to make everyone secure. The protocols and techniques necessary > don't exist yet, and apparently no one has much of an incentive to > create them. It is starting to happen. If you're OK with using a specific web wallet there's BitGo and greenaddress.it already, though I think their risk analysis is just sending you an SMS code. I wrote up an integration plan for bitcoinj a few days ago: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bitcoinj/Uxl-z40OLuQ but guess what? It's quite complicated. As with all these features. --001a11c309da02074404f6833dfc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Multi-sig requires infrastructure. =C2=A0It isn't a magic wand that we = can
wave to make everyone secure. =C2=A0The protocols and techniques necessary<= br> don't exist yet, and apparently no one has much of an incentive to
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but guess what? It's quite compl= icated. As with all these features.
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