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Subject: [Bitcoin-development] Extension for BIP-0070 to support recurring
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Hi,

[I sent this email 2 days ago prior my registration to the mailing list; =
please forgive me if this is a duplicate]

I would like to propose an extension to the Payment Protocol (bip-0070) =
to address the case of recurring payments in Bitcoin -- new bip or =
modification of bip-0070.

There has been a lot of growth in the last few years in the =
'subscription economy' with many new companies embracing that model -- =
online video, gaming, groceries, newspapers,... In parallel, Bitcoin is =
growing into a mainstream currency (hence bip-0070), and so the next =
logical step would be to define a protocol to address that need.

We have been working in the past few years on an open-source billing =
platform (http://kill-bill.org/), and recently came with a prototype to =
do recurring billing in Bitcoin (see =
http://thekillbillstory.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/bitcoin-plugin/ and =
http://thekillbillstory.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/coinbase-integration-expe=
riment/).


The work flow would look similar to the one from bip-0070. There would =
need to be some additions; the flow could be summarized as follow:

0. Click: 'Subscribe Now'
1. Wallet would get  a RecurringPaymentRequestAuth which describes the =
nature of the future recurring payments
2. The Customer would get prompted from the wallet to authorize it.
3. The wallet would then poll the Merchant server (startup time, and/or =
well defined frequency) and potentially merchant would start issuing a =
PaymentRequest); the role of the wallet is to ensure that PaymentRequest =
is within the bounds of what was accepted by the customer-- amount, =
frequency,.. If it is, then it would make the Payment the same way it =
works for bip-0070

Is that something that the community would be interested in? We could =
provide more details about the protocol we have in mind (messages and =
flow), and also provide an implementation with bitcoinj as a wallet and =
Kill Bill as a merchant server.

Le me know what you think.

St=E9phane=

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"><div>Hi,</div><div><div><br></div><div>[I sent this email 2 days ago =
prior my registration to the mailing list; please forgive me if this is =
a duplicate]</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to propose an =
extension to the Payment Protocol (bip-0070) to address the case of =
recurring payments in Bitcoin -- new bip or modification =
of&nbsp;bip-0070.</div><div><br></div><div>There has been a lot of =
growth in the last few years in the 'subscription economy' with many new =
companies embracing that model -- online video, gaming, groceries, =
newspapers,... In parallel, Bitcoin is growing into a mainstream =
currency (hence&nbsp;bip-0070), and so the next logical step would be to =
define a protocol to address that need.</div><div><br></div><div>We have =
been working in the past few years on an open-source billing platform =
(<a href=3D"http://kill-bill.org/">http://kill-bill.org/</a>), and =
recently came with a prototype to do recurring billing in Bitcoin =
(see&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://thekillbillstory.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/bitcoin-plugin/">=
http://thekillbillstory.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/bitcoin-plugin/</a>&nbsp;=
and&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://thekillbillstory.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/coinbase-integrat=
ion-experiment/">http://thekillbillstory.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/coinbase=
-integration-experiment/</a>).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The=
 work flow would look similar to the one from bip-0070. There would need =
to be some additions; the flow could be summarized as =
follow:</div><div><br></div><div>0. Click: 'Subscribe Now'</div><div>1. =
Wallet would get &nbsp;a RecurringPaymentRequestAuth which describes the =
nature of the future recurring payments</div><div>2. The Customer would =
get prompted from the wallet to authorize it.</div><div>3. The wallet =
would then poll the Merchant server (startup time, and/or well defined =
frequency) and potentially merchant would start issuing a =
PaymentRequest); the role of the wallet is to ensure that PaymentRequest =
is within the bounds of what was accepted by the customer-- amount, =
frequency,.. If it is, then it would make the Payment the same way it =
works for bip-0070</div><div><br></div><div>Is that something that the =
community would be interested in? We could provide more details about =
the protocol we have in mind (messages and flow), and also provide an =
implementation with bitcoinj as a wallet and Kill Bill as a merchant =
server.</div><div><br></div><div>Le me know what you =
think.</div><div><br></div><div>St=E9phane</div></div></body></html>=

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