17:22 < kanzure> rules:
	(1) no specific story
	(2) outdoor maps are 20x20
	(3) commit, push and pull request regularly
	(4) bonus points for adding jython tests for changes you submit
	(5) source code must be included (no binary blobs for asm; never lz files)
	(6) all work must be based on pokecrystal.git
	(7) code must compile, and ideally not cause the game to crash

17:23 < NovaSquirrel> lol is this to boost work on pokecrystal because you need to reverse engineer more stuff to make it cooler than the other guy
17:24 < kanzure> no it's not about reverse engineering
17:24 < kanzure> it's to make a rom hack
17:25 < kanzure> (8) anyone is allowed to participate, but nobody is required to provide help on setting up the toolchain during the event (so either do this before, or do it on your own, etc.)

19:54 <&iimarckus> wait it's not about reverse engineering
19:55 <&iimarckus> i thought we would just be working on pokecrystal
21:57 < kanzure> iimarckus: does that mean you are not interested in participating?

22:05 <&iimarckus> not necessarily, but what exactly would i do
22:05 <&iimarckus> i have a lack of ideas
22:06 < kanzure> well, we would probably just feed you ideas
22:07 < kanzure> one, we will probably (though not certainly) strip out the title sequence, copyright sequence, animation thing, and possibly intro
22:08 < kanzure> although i don't think that's really important, it's certainly something that i wouldn't scoff at someone doing
22:09 < kanzure> my motivation when i suggested the hackathon was to answer the question of how much of a hack could be made in a single day, either in terms of content or any other modifications.. so if all else fails, mapping/map events i guess?
22:10 < kanzure> the reason isn't to complete a /particular/ story-hack but rather to demonstrate that team collaboration is an actual possible thing, fun, and produces a fun playable product

22:26 <+Sanqui> anyway kanzure I agree, both map and interesting engine stuff should be in there
22:27 <+Sanqui> (because I totally have some in mind)
22:35 < kanzure> sure we would be happy to use your variable width font
22:36 <+Sanqui> oh, yeah, I'll port it

22:50 < kanzure> iimarckus: also, while it might sound trivial, showing how to map a town and script everything (using the scripting macros in .asm rather than hex) is a useful thing to do because it adds playable content, plus it demonstrates to others that scripting is not that hard.
22:50 < kanzure> i think scripting an entire town should be doable in <1 hour, but we'll see how it actually turns out
22:50 < padz> scripting is really really easy with labels
22:51 < kanzure> yeah, but nobody has demonstrated how "fast" it can be
22:51 < padz> i think you could do a town's worth in 20 minutes
22:51 < kanzure> well, i was also estimating in time for having to fuck with events/warps :\
22:53 < kanzure> anyway if 20 minutes is true then it should be possible to do 288 maps in 24 hours with everyone doing mapping (of course, not everyone will)
22:54 < kanzure> oh also i meant the scripts for npcs in buildings inside towns.. dunno if that was obvious.

22:58 < padz> we should probably choose a direction to map out into
22:58 < kanzure> huh?
22:58 < padz> like i go west youre north and so on
22:58 < padz> at least at the beginning
22:59 < padz> i have no expectations for coordination
22:59 < padz> unless were on skype or some shit
23:00 < kanzure> could just be random un-connected areas, and then someone can add routes as they please to connect things, right? or do you think direction coordination is important?
23:01 <+Sanqui> maybe a town map should be drawn up first
23:01 < padz> rule #9: no routes
23:01 < padz> rule #10: draw the town map as we go
23:01 <+Sanqui> then people can just claim areas without having to modify them later...

23:02 < kanzure> rule #11: no town map
23:02 < padz> vetoed
23:02 < kanzure> what
23:02 < kanzure> you like town maps?
23:02 <+Sanqui> we got the pokégear
23:03 <+Sanqui> although I'd probably nuke it from the menu and add a regular town map
23:06 <+Sanqui> we can draw one in paint and implement it on our own
23:06 <+Sanqui> without markers etc
23:07 < padz> well my thinking was each tile on the town map would be a 20x20 map
23:07 < padz> and youd just fill in everything

23:12 < kanzure> what do you want instead of routes?
23:12 < kanzure> better-named things?
23:13 < padz> 'overworld'
23:13 < padz> and names i guess
23:14 < kanzure> whole game will just be a long route
23:14 < kanzure> you start at route 1 and walk until you reach route 1043
23:14 < kanzure> 20 map banks, 255 each, right?
23:14 < padz> 254
23:14 < padz> $ff makes it think its in an elevator
23:14 < kanzure> whole game will be elevators?
23:21 < padz> pokecenters

00:04 <+Sanqui> can I veto pokécenters
00:04 <+Sanqui> can we make something more interesting
00:04 <+Sanqui> even healing springs or something stupid like that would be better
00:09 < kanzure> do whatever you want
00:09 < kanzure> but i'm probably not going to want to go through all the maps and do healing springs, but you might
01:00 <+Sanqui> it can be something unique each time