-- 2010-01-09 (01/09/2010 01:16:23 PM) Juyun Kim: hey Bryan, about me fighting with the associate, please don't worry about it. My personality isn't so bad. I'll send you a voicemail or something like that one day so you can hear who i am. with preparation, things will go great with internet marketing. amongst other things :) (01:53:46 PM) Juyun Kim: wow the dowser niche database has over 20 million keywords (02:10:23 PM) Juyun Kim: ready? (03:11:46 PM) Juyun Kim: please don't talk about these info to anyone if you don't mind... cheat device, copied info... etc... (03:17:38 PM) Juyun Kim: yes you're right. i keep getting ahead of myself. (03:18:02 PM) Juyun Kim: we've got first thing to accomplish... (04:28:48 PM) Juyun Kim: i'm going to concentrate on building new networks for internet marketing, and indulge in different areas for your info and mine. so i'll be chatting day and night from now and on. anything in particular you would be interested, please let me know. (04:44:53 PM) Juyun Kim: i don't think AI is going to surface anytime soon, but I think life extension therapy (precise ones) will be within the next decade... whats your prediction? (05:00:21 PM) Juyun Kim: so once we get that figured out, (05:00:42 PM) Juyun Kim: i suppose we would want it completly automated (05:00:57 PM) Juyun Kim: and information products, in variety of niches, is just too much maintenance. (05:01:09 PM) Juyun Kim: so... like we've discussed before. (05:01:16 PM) Juyun Kim: since we have no moral objections against it... (05:01:48 PM) Juyun Kim: it would be best we follow the adult industry, or whichever is easiest to convert. (05:02:09 PM) Juyun Kim: i'm researching into that right now... hope your not against it... (05:02:25 PM) Juyun Kim: let me know if you do though. (06:24:07 PM) Juyun Kim: just met a email spammer from netherlands. (06:24:12 PM) Juyun Kim: kicking off in conversations. (06:24:24 PM) Juyun Kim: they had no idea such monetization methods existed. (07:01:05 PM) Juyun Kim: wuw man... apparently email harvesters can gather millions of emails, niche-specific from forums, just like hrefer. (07:01:17 PM) Juyun Kim: and sending this to adsense orphan pages, as i suggested to them, (07:01:26 PM) Juyun Kim: is like instant monetization in traffic. (07:01:37 PM) Juyun Kim: but of course, they (adsense) would ban us so (07:01:46 PM) Juyun Kim: we do it in minimal scale. (07:01:56 PM) Juyun Kim: across many different accounts. (07:02:25 PM) Juyun Kim: and we're (the spammers) and I are now locating offshore bank accounts to anonymously cash out from ATM machines. (07:02:27 PM) Juyun Kim: internationally. (07:02:32 PM) Juyun Kim: should it work that is. (07:02:38 PM) Juyun Kim: so far, no reason why it shouldn't. (07:02:56 PM) Juyun Kim: and your software can become handy in this because... (07:03:06 PM) Juyun Kim: we can rotate the pages. (07:03:19 PM) Juyun Kim: by content... although i think... (07:03:27 PM) Juyun Kim: just blasting 1 page per niche is just fine... (07:03:36 PM) Juyun Kim: but whichever way, it's cool. (07:03:48 PM) Juyun Kim: no need to respond to this message. i know it's a sensitive topic. (07:03:54 PM) Juyun Kim: just saying for your reference. (07:04:51 PM) Juyun Kim: or bah! whatever. i'm paranoid. (07:07:38 PM) Juyun Kim: it's interesting how Stephan Hawking asked on yahooanswers.com, that how humanity will survive the next 100 years... (07:07:47 PM) Juyun Kim: he doesn't seem to believe we will. (07:08:23 PM) Juyun Kim: i think, as bio-info becomes more abundant, and there's going to be private labs with minimal investment needs... (07:08:36 PM) Juyun Kim: there will be a engineered virus to the public. (07:08:40 PM) Juyun Kim: no doubt. (07:08:51 PM) Juyun Kim: it would be best to prepare for this. (07:09:23 PM) Juyun Kim: does it sound psychotic? well, not if you understand the nature of mankind. i've seen the darker sides. I lived in South Korea. :P (11:21:04 AM) Juyun Kim: yo man, you alright? (12:00:31 PM) Juyun Kim: i don't understand. just trust me, we're in it for longevtiy research and i mean this. (12:00:47 PM) Juyun Kim: i'm not some cheesy marketer who says this thing and leave off (12:01:30 PM) Juyun Kim: anyways. (12:01:38 PM) Juyun Kim: ok. you're busy. (12:01:50 PM) Juyun Kim: i'm going to keep updating you with new info, and new strategies. (12:01:58 PM) Juyun Kim: for free. (12:02:07 PM) Juyun Kim: no work needed from you ok? (12:02:26 PM) Juyun Kim: sigh... alright. let's just halt on this for now. (for NOW) -- 2010-08-04 (03:07:03 PM) Juyun Kim: ok (03:07:17 PM) Juyun Kim: you free to talk? (03:07:27 PM) kanzure: uh (03:07:32 PM) kanzure: let me think (03:07:36 PM) kanzure: i have a couple of things i'm doing right now (03:07:59 PM) Juyun Kim: don't dismiss me immediately as bullshit (03:08:12 PM) Juyun Kim: that bank thing was 1 solution... there are others... (03:08:36 PM) Juyun Kim: instead going through freelancing thing and stock thing- (03:08:50 PM) Juyun Kim: there's more immediate options... (03:09:02 PM) Juyun Kim: such as buying items and picking them off using someone else and dropping them. (03:09:18 PM) Juyun Kim: or using ATM cards/debit cards for withdrawal. (03:09:45 PM) kanzure: phone call... brb (03:10:57 PM) Juyun Kim: as for the bank thing, it's risky. but we do it in a time-frame where no investigation begin. like while the ebayer waits for the item to be shipped, we have at least 1 week. (03:13:28 PM) kanzure: sorry about that, i was on the phone (03:13:47 PM) Juyun Kim: yeah... so (03:13:51 PM) Juyun Kim: the people i've found- (03:14:01 PM) Juyun Kim: they're willing to do all sorts of offline activities (03:14:10 PM) Juyun Kim: for immediate options- (03:14:19 PM) Juyun Kim: other than our freelancing and stock thing. (03:14:41 PM) Juyun Kim: they won't get caught. they have many options- and have been doing it for many years in smaller scales. (03:15:18 PM) Juyun Kim: freelancing and stock thing is great yes. but it takes time, and effort. much much more effort. (03:15:51 PM) Juyun Kim: this option... these people aren't stupid. they wouldn't do it if they thought they'd get caught. (03:16:15 PM) Juyun Kim: there are anonymous debit cards- one can order online, (03:16:32 PM) Juyun Kim: we can transfer money in there. take it off via ATM (or ecurrency debit cards) (03:16:54 PM) Juyun Kim: or items- small items, and re-sell them but this does take time. (03:17:25 PM) Juyun Kim: the fastest way is the bank withdrawal thing. YES, it is very risky. but we do it fast before any investigation is held. (03:19:41 PM) Juyun Kim: we can potentially get many millions in cash. (03:20:52 PM) Juyun Kim: they take the risk, so we obviously need to give them large percentage, but it's free money anyways. we save time, effort and energy. (03:21:10 PM) Juyun Kim: we just need to scale it bigger. since we can now concentrate fully on moving the money (03:21:13 PM) Juyun Kim: that is possible. (03:21:24 PM) Juyun Kim: as for the trust issue with these guys, (03:21:34 PM) Juyun Kim: WE have the control/flow of the money to these accounts right? (03:21:42 PM) Juyun Kim: so we give them little to start with, (03:21:47 PM) Juyun Kim: get something back- (03:21:54 PM) Juyun Kim: then we give them more- (03:22:31 PM) Juyun Kim: so they do it according to - (03:22:31 PM) Juyun Kim: our demands... (03:22:47 PM) Juyun Kim: you there? (03:22:50 PM) kanzure: yes i am here (03:23:51 PM) Juyun Kim: i can go through the mechanics and details- if you find anything suspicious or disconcerting. (03:24:10 PM) Juyun Kim: i don't think it's anymore riskier than our previous roles. (03:24:18 PM) Juyun Kim: projects. (03:24:27 PM) Juyun Kim: or whatever we thought of doing. (03:24:55 PM) Juyun Kim: this has no traces, just a person or two moving from 1 account to the next. (03:25:16 PM) Juyun Kim: here in this place, and among many other places, (03:25:23 PM) Juyun Kim: there are no cameras in ATMs (03:25:37 PM) Juyun Kim: there are no cameras anywhere. (03:25:40 PM) Juyun Kim: and even if there are, (03:25:46 PM) Juyun Kim: it's 8 bit resolution. - (03:26:00 PM) Juyun Kim: so they've been doing it for years- (03:26:04 PM) Juyun Kim: and, found it easy. (03:26:09 PM) Juyun Kim: no traces. (03:26:44 PM) Juyun Kim: we have the upper hand. (03:26:50 PM) Juyun Kim: we control the flow of the money, (03:26:57 PM) Juyun Kim: these are our 'goons' (03:27:08 PM) Juyun Kim: i made it that way. (03:27:16 PM) Juyun Kim: they need us, they don't know us. (03:27:54 PM) Juyun Kim: anonymous shipping addresses, anonymous debit cards, anon-bank accounts- (03:27:57 PM) Juyun Kim: experts. (03:28:06 PM) Juyun Kim: i had no idea this place- (03:28:12 PM) Juyun Kim: was a haven for laundering money. (03:28:39 PM) Juyun Kim: i thought just some bank secrecy laws applied... and that was it but (03:29:07 PM) Juyun Kim: you can make incorporation and have ANYONE with a passcode find money as well- (03:29:32 PM) Juyun Kim: anyways. (03:30:15 PM) Juyun Kim: we have full control. there are no betrayal. they need more money, we give to them. they dont know our identity. and i dont know them. only by face. (03:31:10 PM) Juyun Kim: we're talking immediate money.. (03:31:56 PM) Juyun Kim: not waiting 6months to a year and the time spent planning and registering beyond. you do realize that making and buying those ebay and paypal accounts alone is time consuming and bothersome... (03:32:07 PM) Juyun Kim: changing the feedbacks... (03:36:01 PM) Juyun Kim: don't like it? (03:37:55 PM) Juyun Kim: i'm not going to try and 'convince' you further. if you don't want to give it a chance without even discussing the mechanics involved and thinking it through, that is your choice. (03:38:14 PM) Juyun Kim: i just don't want to waste time and effort. (04:23:41 PM) Juyun Kim: do you mind coming up with an answer? are you thinking about it? (04:25:38 PM) kanzure: No thanks. (04:25:48 PM) Juyun Kim: got it... (04:25:55 PM) Juyun Kim: why not? (04:26:26 PM) Juyun Kim: alright nevermind. (04:26:45 PM) Juyun Kim: let's just continue with the freelancing and stock projects then... (04:26:55 PM) Juyun Kim: i don't care. (04:27:19 PM) Juyun Kim: you are an asshole. you do know that right? (04:27:34 PM) Juyun Kim: whatever. (04:40:11 PM) Juyun Kim: tell me something. why not. (04:40:24 PM) kanzure: What do you need me to tell you? (04:40:37 PM) Juyun Kim: why dont you want to engage in this - (04:40:46 PM) Juyun Kim: offline cash laundering. (04:41:40 PM) Juyun Kim: it's an opportunity we have control over. (04:42:22 PM) Juyun Kim: we send how much. (04:42:38 PM) kanzure: it's a very dangerous game you're playing (04:42:40 PM) Juyun Kim: and send again IF they do well and we receive the money. (04:43:24 PM) Juyun Kim: well... they take the risks you know (04:43:31 PM) kanzure: No, they see your face.. (04:43:38 PM) Juyun Kim: they dont even know our names- (04:43:52 PM) Juyun Kim: no they dont see my face- (04:43:52 PM) Juyun Kim: they drop it off (04:44:09 PM) kanzure: at a physical location.... (04:44:18 PM) Juyun Kim: nope (04:44:21 PM) Juyun Kim: we can make it electrical (04:44:30 PM) Juyun Kim: it;'s up to us. (04:44:36 PM) Juyun Kim: total control. they abide by it. (04:45:17 PM) Juyun Kim: it really beats going through freelancing and stock thing. really no effort. (04:45:27 PM) Juyun Kim: we save time and it is anonymous - for us. (04:45:36 PM) Juyun Kim: and they take the risks. (04:45:51 PM) Juyun Kim: let's try it out man (04:45:56 PM) kanzure: if it's electrical then it has to be routed to a bank account (04:46:00 PM) kanzure: your name is attached to the bank account (04:46:12 PM) Juyun Kim: no (04:46:13 PM) Juyun Kim: we can use ecurrency- (04:46:15 PM) Juyun Kim: and atm cards (04:46:26 PM) Juyun Kim: among other things (04:46:49 PM) Juyun Kim: because you take it out from your location (04:46:49 PM) Juyun Kim: which they dont know (04:46:55 PM) Juyun Kim: oh you mean the money (04:47:03 PM) Juyun Kim: yeah well, it's the same thing as freelancing (04:47:07 PM) Juyun Kim: when you incorporate a company, (04:47:16 PM) kanzure: no it's not the same.. this is money laundering (04:47:20 PM) Juyun Kim: you can say you earned x amount of dollars this month (04:47:21 PM) Juyun Kim: and that is laundered. (04:47:27 PM) kanzure: look, you have to physically interact with people, i don't understand your claim. (04:47:40 PM) Juyun Kim: i dont. thats the thing. (04:47:47 PM) Juyun Kim: im doing this over the phone. (04:47:59 PM) kanzure: I am not interested in talking about this. (04:48:09 PM) Juyun Kim: sigh (04:48:36 PM) Juyun Kim: it's totally anonymous and you can save so much time (04:48:47 PM) Juyun Kim: but ok (04:50:02 PM) Juyun Kim: you can use cash for so much things (04:50:02 PM) Juyun Kim: 100 million in short time.. (04:50:06 PM) Juyun Kim: instead of softwares making and hiring.... (04:54:45 PM) Juyun Kim: how about i do it myself and send it over to you? (04:54:56 PM) Juyun Kim: i mean everything. i can handle it. (04:55:12 PM) Juyun Kim: ATM cards, banks. (04:55:17 PM) Juyun Kim: .............sigh... (05:26:02 PM) Juyun Kim: i need that keylogger i linked you before if you still have it (05:26:06 PM) Juyun Kim: it was called steel keylogger -- 2010-08-08 (04:51:10 AM) Juyun Kim: theres over 33,000 atoms in a single cell? i didn't know this. So as we get to the atomic precision of nanotechnology, there's plenty of room to repair? (04:52:43 AM) Juyun Kim: hope all things are going smoothly (04:53:26 AM) Juyun Kim: going alright here... (04:34:36 AM) Juyun Kim: what is your religion? (04:36:07 AM) Juyun Kim: nevermind... (04:41:10 AM) Juyun Kim: guess we'll speak in about a month's time frame. start my project.. (04:41:25 AM) Juyun Kim: or have you already done it? (04:42:36 AM) Juyun Kim: with your friends maybe?... -- 2011-09-13 (07:03:10 PM) Juyun Kim: can i just ask you 1 cryonic question? do you think vitrified patients have a good chance of waking up in say, 70 years? (07:03:37 PM) kanzure: dunno.. how about you run the experiments and find out? (07:03:59 PM) Juyun Kim: how can i, i don't know jack. no money as well. (07:04:05 PM) Juyun Kim: but ok, you don't know either (07:04:25 PM) Juyun Kim: ok then i guess i shouldn't have hoped so much in this project (07:04:33 PM) Juyun Kim: i'm giving up then (07:04:35 PM) kanzure: k (07:04:40 PM) Juyun Kim: better off that way i guess (07:51:10 PM) Juyun Kim: Hey, Bryan, i'm removing you from my gtalk... We don't have any businesses together anyways... No hard feelings man, if we had any. (07:52:20 PM) Juyun Kim: that is how it is. -- 2011-10-23 (02:26:25 AM) Juyun Kim: And the share of percentage is okay (02:26:44 AM) Juyun Kim: Normally should be a salary says he. (02:35:38 AM) Juyun Kim: If you wont be interested I shall go on and pick somebody willing to participate. Just thought previous acquintance would be of use... (02:36:06 AM) Juyun Kim: Let me know what you think i sent you a email and irc msg. (02:42:01 AM) Juyun Kim: or maybe it's too soon to be pciking positions and roles. Sorry about that forget for now and let me know if you have suggestions. (05:09:14 AM) Juyun Kim: Chairman will likely be my influencer and investor the politician I am under. I am likely to be the CEO in it. I will have to appoint a different person as COO... But basically, it's a team work man. No worries. (05:04:50 AM) Juyun Kim: Damn your age sure gets in the way of getting you a position. LOL. (05:47:14 AM) Juyun Kim: Bryan I just want to know if you can handle your position and have time to contribute to all this and living in Vanuatu for at least few years. Please think about the advantages and disadvantages for you, and choose the best route for yourself. I will support it. (05:57:08 AM) Juyun Kim: If you believe you wont be giving full participation or would feel missed out in your life there in the states, i dont think it could be for you. If that is the case i am sorry to have mentioned this with such hype. The funds are already in London at the moment and we are finding a route to transfer it over to Vanuatu. But no banks in Vanuatu can easily accept such immense amount... (05:52:50 AM) Juyun Kim: But it is ready as far as the authority to use the funds and to be sending toward where we need it to be is now in our hands. Though we hope to use it after we receive.it in vanuatu banks... (06:18:24 AM) Juyun Kim: I get to form the team but the investor has the ultimate say in this... (06:22:09 AM) Juyun Kim: must be bed time there hey think about all this and give me a reply within few days because i really need to form a functional faculty and give out a presentation before.i begin. -- 2011-11-11 (04:18:02 AM) Juyun Kim: If i pay you 10k for these softwares and the 3tb content will promise not to hold anything back and not hide anything? And err, throw in something for good measure? (06:54:59 PM) Juyun Kim: Where did u go (06:56:11 PM) Juyun Kim: Is there a way to change your voice so it sounds like someone elses? Scan the voice and then apply it to your own by its sound frequency. (06:57:39 PM) Juyun Kim: I saw it in mission impossible 2 but i dont think that plastic strip can be easily made. But what if you carry around a necklace that presses against your voice box. Like those people who lost their voice due to excessive smoking? (07:00:18 PM) Juyun Kim: Can a voice be changed this way... (07:01:20 PM) Juyun Kim: The brain emphasizer is interesting... (07:02:04 PM) Juyun Kim: or should i say amplifier... (07:04:21 PM) Juyun Kim: Dont screw me over pls. Lol (07:04:48 PM) Juyun Kim: With ideas or development. Let me know if you can do it. (07:06:29 PM) Juyun Kim: 20 percent deposit. And as progress is reported, another 20 percent after 2 weeks. And so on until completion. (08:20:51 PM) Juyun Kim: So think about the glasses thing. I wanted to make it not to use it though. I want to test out if my creativity can be justified. (08:47:24 PM) Juyun Kim: i wonder if you can make spy gadgets. I'd pay for that. (08:48:29 PM) Juyun Kim: the gov of vanuatu can probably request schematics of british gadgets on behalf of their intelligence services... (08:49:12 PM) Juyun Kim: The british or other countries may respond. Reavealing more older technologies.... (08:49:35 PM) Juyun Kim: And i can probably hire someone to fabricate the schematic. (08:49:44 PM) Juyun Kim: That person could be you. (08:50:02 PM) Juyun Kim: Which is the area i am very interested in. (08:50:10 PM) Juyun Kim: The spy stuff. (08:52:56 PM) Juyun Kim: Of course it should be confidential for all accounts... This glasses idea is to open up a department convincing the authorities that vanuatu needs a intelligence service. (08:53:35 PM) Juyun Kim: And when we are approved of it, i will keep you as the primary source of making these gadgets and keep funding you. (08:54:29 PM) Juyun Kim: How does that sound? You would be Q of James Bond. Or Lucius Fox of the Dark Knight. Me of course being the dark knight. LOL. (08:54:47 PM) Juyun Kim: Or James Bond! (08:55:20 PM) Juyun Kim: There you go i just found a good market for you. (09:03:32 PM) Juyun Kim: But for now i would rather have safe foundation and practical things. Nothing too eccentric. Although i suspect it would change quickly. (09:05:14 PM) Juyun Kim: for what i know once my company is raking in a hundred million a month, ANY ideas could be attempted. (09:08:00 PM) Juyun Kim: And... The spy stuff you can only make so much variations. We would need to move on. (09:10:18 PM) Juyun Kim: Matter of time to have it all. (09:36:44 PM) Juyun Kim: but really once you are proving u can these projects one by one i wouldt be limited to giving u just one field to engage. (09:37:03 PM) Juyun Kim: Biogenic therapies sound interesting. (09:38:04 PM) Juyun Kim: Our goal is reversal of aging right? Initially anyway following the road to transhumanism... But foundation must become strong. (09:39:17 PM) Juyun Kim: If you believe making spy gadgets is... Waste of time try putting it in a brighter perspective. (09:39:51 PM) Juyun Kim: Tomorrow i go and deal with this manganese mining. (09:40:23 PM) Juyun Kim: Today just setting up accomodation online for the hyundai (09:40:41 PM) Juyun Kim: Where they should be placed strategically (09:40:59 PM) Juyun Kim: Ive already given them the answer. (10:36:46 PM) Juyun Kim: i am gathering investors with dr.kleinseks leading therapy rhe cellagen. (10:39:28 PM) Juyun Kim: if china has the currently the largest genomic sequencers in the world and the link you showed me was it, thats just little over hundred million. Which is possible. (10:40:59 PM) Juyun Kim: Trouble is that i need more education. At least i have the right connections... (10:41:23 PM) Juyun Kim: I mean to be clearly using genomic sequencers (10:41:40 PM) Juyun Kim: I.must reverse engineer the process (10:42:00 PM) Juyun Kim: Shouldnt be that difficult minus the chemistry (10:42:20 PM) Juyun Kim: Understanding the concepts i mean (10:43:37 PM) Juyun Kim: Your consultancy will be very much appreciated throughout our project making. While i fund you and we are in the process of making the consultancy is hoped to be included. (10:44:01 PM) kanzure: ok (10:44:07 PM) Juyun Kim: And i keep paying you to make more things (10:44:18 PM) Juyun Kim: Great (11:51:14 PM) Juyun Kim: Errm correcting number 1 problem for the glasses, ' you can still SEE the electrodes etched on the surface of the lens, reflected by lighting. But there are nearly invisible or invisible electrodes you can print out.' (11:51:40 PM) Juyun Kim: somehow i missed the word 'see' in there. (11:52:32 PM) Juyun Kim: if you want me to draw you a diagram later i'll do that. -- 2011-11-18 (05:24:07 AM) Juyun Kim: Hi. Could you please check to see if usinvestment.net is a australia owned company or a ghost anonymous company? (05:24:31 AM) Juyun Kim: Usinvestmentbank.net (05:25:12 AM) Juyun Kim: I am going well. Cellagen process was revealed. It was mich more powerful than i thought it was. (05:30:23 AM) Juyun Kim: oops sorry its http://Usibank.net/ (05:30:47 AM) Juyun Kim: Im just doing a background check -- 2011-11-25 (11:39:23 PM) Juyun Kim: I am going to be building a hackerspace type of building here. Something prefabricated so that it can be built immediately. The main facilities will take some time to develop afterall. I am building this in order to study different areas and industries. (11:40:00 PM) Juyun Kim: Dr.Kleinsek and I have decided on the names of the facilities. And it's roles. (11:40:30 PM) Juyun Kim: Which I should not mention yet. (11:46:06 PM) Juyun Kim: oh man.... Looking at nootropics here on wiki.... And i aee this thing kava listed as anti stress type of drug (11:46:13 PM) Juyun Kim: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kava (11:46:25 PM) Juyun Kim: Ive been drinking it here everyday (11:46:50 PM) Juyun Kim: Its part of thr culture and it lists.... The prolonged use of it will damage your liver (11:46:54 PM) Juyun Kim: Fuck.... (11:47:16 PM) Juyun Kim: Got no choice though... (11:47:28 PM) Juyun Kim: Part of everyones culture here. (11:48:12 PM) Juyun Kim: So this hackerspace, i am thinking of building it with adam kalkin's design. (11:48:50 PM) Juyun Kim: cargo Containers housed with steel frame building. (11:50:15 PM) Juyun Kim: http://www.prefabs.com/PrefabHomes/AdamKalkin/12ContainerHouse.htm (11:50:24 PM) Juyun Kim: Just bigger than that (11:51:00 PM) Juyun Kim: With about 24 twenty foot cargo containers. (11:52:30 PM) Juyun Kim: Why. Because i need it built fast and made of steel. Very cost effective and will be giving lots of square footage.... Mostly importantly i can move the darn thing entirely fully modular... (12:09:56 AM) Juyun Kim: It will have 4 bathrooms. Each with stainless steel toilet sink tub. It will accomodate 7 people. (12:11:07 AM) Juyun Kim: I am thinking of brining people over from America and Canada to live in this hackerspace and study together. (12:11:29 AM) Juyun Kim: Which I will consult you on. (12:12:00 AM) Juyun Kim: I can probably use about 3 mil. (12:12:30 AM) Juyun Kim: I'll be buying equipments as well. (12:13:11 AM) Juyun Kim: To take a sample.of every major industry practices and study them. (12:16:01 AM) Juyun Kim: Any suggestions are welcome (12:24:52 AM) Juyun Kim: Will also be buying f650 supertruck probably going to be modded as a mobile data communication center of sort. And just a normal vehicle. (12:26:23 AM) Juyun Kim: http://m.luxurylaunches.com/transport/ford_f650_super_truck_xuv.php (12:27:11 AM) Juyun Kim: Which will be housed inside the hacker space. As you can see in the kalkin's design, it's a gigantic garage drive thru (12:27:52 AM) Juyun Kim: Middle of the hackerspace will be large enough so the vehicles can park themselves (12:29:00 AM) Juyun Kim: Much of this is experimental because i plan on using this first hackerspace as a 'bootcamp' testing ground before recruitment into main facility. Sort of like a trial of abilities. (12:29:36 AM) Juyun Kim: Thankfully cargo.containers can easily be purchased anywhere in the world. (12:29:55 AM) Juyun Kim: It's a shipping industry standard. (12:30:09 AM) Juyun Kim: And so are steel based warehouses.... (12:30:35 AM) Juyun Kim: divide and conquer. (05:39:35 AM) Juyun Kim: Do you think it's possible to have a space launching station on countries where it's not close to the earth's equator? (05:40:08 AM) Juyun Kim: Heard that's a pre requisite (05:40:14 AM) Juyun Kim: Required... (02:50:57 PM) kanzure: did you receive the money yet (02:51:48 PM) Juyun Kim: Its on its way we spoke to the donator yesterday. Transit in multiple countries. Im talking the 300 mil. (02:52:18 PM) kanzure: what is your cut (02:52:21 PM) Juyun Kim: For my money the guys from hyundai are suppose to come today 27th but i dont know (02:53:02 PM) Juyun Kim: My cut is on percentages. Its from the cashflow. Direct lump sum comes from hyundai. (02:53:35 PM) Juyun Kim: Which is 325000 at first, and probably about 3 mil for second phase. (02:54:02 PM) Juyun Kim: So initially i get 325000 within few weeks. (02:57:01 PM) Juyun Kim: Im interested in a full body scanning lab. Not just cells but body fat content bone structure body contour veins... Etc.... (02:57:26 PM) Juyun Kim: I dont think 3 mil is going to cover the hackerspace equipments... (02:57:56 PM) kanzure: 3mil if you build it yourself... if you buy the equipment new, some of it will cost $3mil for one thing (like an fmri machin) (02:58:55 PM) Juyun Kim: That is expensive... I'd better increase the funding to 5 if im going to spend next 3 years in this place. (02:59:44 PM) Juyun Kim: Thinking about making a thesis or something in synthetic biology and get a honorary degree phd or something (02:59:51 PM) Juyun Kim: I can do this here. (03:00:19 PM) Juyun Kim: Gotta study and make up something. (03:01:13 PM) Juyun Kim: I think you need one as well (03:01:43 PM) Juyun Kim: You interested? Shortcut to phd. (03:02:29 PM) Juyun Kim: I should bring you here. (03:04:18 PM) Juyun Kim: You and i are gonna form a team. But not based on our previous encounters. (03:04:47 PM) Juyun Kim: We will go around different parts of USA or even countries. (03:05:07 PM) Juyun Kim: Oh but staying for few years aye... Hmm (03:06:00 PM) Juyun Kim: Yeah i can tell you will have trouble with the locals here. They are extremely invasive. -- 2011-11-27 (10:15:09 PM) Juyun Kim: My phone sent a random message there. lol. (10:15:59 PM) Juyun Kim: Dealing with many would be investors... (10:16:40 PM) Juyun Kim: every one of them has diabetes. What does being rich got to do with diabetes i wonder. (10:17:17 PM) Juyun Kim: Too much junk food. Haha! (10:17:37 PM) Juyun Kim: Ok im tooting my own hirn (10:17:41 PM) Juyun Kim: Orn (10:17:51 PM) Juyun Kim: Horn. Fuck the phone (10:18:28 PM) Juyun Kim: Mr eric drexler appears to have joined nanorex... (10:18:49 PM) Juyun Kim: Simulating molecular machinary in softwares... (10:20:26 PM) Juyun Kim: in the long run if the company becomes sustainable we go ahead and start with nanotech research.... (10:20:42 PM) Juyun Kim: 3Rd HQ. The last one being online related perhaps. (10:21:01 PM) Juyun Kim: If we can mess up google... (10:33:30 PM) Juyun Kim: what is eric drexler doing now (10:35:48 PM) Juyun Kim: The thing is this. The H+, foresight, immortalist, transhumanist, all the life extension related activities are not funded because the public conception is simply impossible. And im the direct link between these people and.l to the politicians and billionaires. Somehkw it happened this way.... (10:36:35 PM) Juyun Kim: I'm pushing forward evolution or managing the direction of it. I'm saving the world. Lol. (10:37:18 PM) Juyun Kim: So next step is to really keep on making convinving presentations.... And proce to them the effects using cellagen.... (10:37:23 PM) Juyun Kim: Prove. (10:40:16 PM) Juyun Kim: Theres gotta be better search engine concepts out there than google. (10:40:47 PM) Juyun Kim: And to have all the contents of google indexed in... (10:46:46 PM) kanzure: drexler moved to london/oxford (10:47:41 PM) Juyun Kim: I see... (10:47:52 PM) Juyun Kim: Used to live in silicon valley (10:48:02 PM) Juyun Kim: So i read. (10:48:52 PM) Juyun Kim: Bryan what exactly is your goal is it the gnusha project (10:52:39 PM) Juyun Kim: Would you sacrifice time for this money recognizing not all projects can be handled at the same time unless you already have the resources maybe (10:53:44 PM) Juyun Kim: They all seemingly is for money. (10:53:53 PM) Juyun Kim: To get to a higher goal. (10:54:41 PM) Juyun Kim: I will keep them in mind. Seems like all of it is for personal.uses of consumers i mean. (11:30:56 PM) Juyun Kim: Wonder if it be prudent to have this technology researched continuously or.start from somewhere else... (11:31:06 PM) Juyun Kim: Overall.... (11:31:43 PM) Juyun Kim: Just wondering if mr. Drexler is the leading person here or there could be some else. (11:32:42 PM) Juyun Kim: Which country should the Nanorelated practices be... (11:33:09 PM) Juyun Kim: If we can afford a private jet... (12:09:17 AM) Juyun Kim: We have 2 main HQ so far. The Vanuatu branch is dedicated to all the opportunities from various industries like mining and civil engineering to import and export. (12:10:17 AM) Juyun Kim: Second HQ which will be in Cupertino is going to be primarily Dr.Kleinsek's research and implementation on cellagen. (12:11:02 AM) Juyun Kim: Second HQ's purpose will effect the first HQ. And will be used as a branch as well. (12:11:35 AM) Juyun Kim: So then it is logical to have a 3rd HQ dedicated to advancement of nanotech.... (12:11:59 AM) Juyun Kim: If i can get a billion dollars in funding. Why not. (12:12:19 AM) Juyun Kim: The fourth.... (12:13:19 AM) Juyun Kim: I would like it to be concentrated on online affairs. Fighting against all online based companies. (12:13:42 AM) Juyun Kim: The trouble is, will we be able to manage it all. Lol. (12:14:02 AM) Juyun Kim: Dr.Kleinsek will always be the CEO. (12:14:14 AM) Juyun Kim: I will always be the chairman. (12:14:40 AM) Juyun Kim: The COO are the uniques here that manages the facilities. (12:15:26 AM) Juyun Kim: My primary roles are getting the investors, recruiting, and directing overall flow of the money.... (12:15:57 AM) Juyun Kim: Ok should there be one more... (12:16:05 AM) Juyun Kim: Dedicated to A.I.... (12:16:22 AM) Juyun Kim: Or shall we all mingle.together. (12:16:40 AM) Juyun Kim: Would be more cost effective. Lol. (12:17:33 AM) Juyun Kim: btw if you have more info on A.I beyond henry markram. Like bio related A.I please send me some info. (12:18:33 AM) kanzure: do you have money yet (12:21:47 AM) Juyun Kim: ah of course. Sorry lets wait for the money so i can send you for the consultancy. (12:22:59 AM) Juyun Kim: Mgood news is that the Big money is here. But in transit. I cant use it immediately especially smaller amounts ironically. (12:23:20 AM) Juyun Kim: The money ill be sending you is my personal money lol. (12:23:35 AM) Juyun Kim: Which im waiting for. (12:24:27 AM) Juyun Kim: With these primary 4 departments, we will have it all in one place. (12:25:13 AM) Juyun Kim: All contributing to life extension and medical related technologies. (02:21:51 AM) Juyun Kim: Hey can you think of any pervasive/invasive experiments normally protected by a country's law? Because we can do those experiments here in Vanuatu. Don't think in terms of money but human enhancement and life extension. And I can let you be on charge of this department! Mad Science! (02:24:01 AM) Juyun Kim: Btw, we can get human test subjects here volunteers. No kidding. No laws. Superhuman type of experiments? Yes. (02:45:49 AM) Juyun Kim: O man something wrong with my gmail chat hope the messages i am sending are going in a linear fashion as opposite to what i am getting. (02:46:04 AM) Juyun Kim: Did you get my last few messages? (02:46:13 AM) Juyun Kim: Mad Science. (02:47:48 AM) Juyun Kim: Frankenstein stuff. Cheat off anything. Alter the natural laws. And we do it here. There are no laws but we will keep it hidden and it'll be between you and me. I'll find a way to fund it. We'll go for a nobel prize. Whatever it is. (02:48:29 AM) Juyun Kim: I would imagine bio related stuff. (02:49:53 AM) Juyun Kim: I have no faith in any religions whatsoever. So i have no moral obligations and i am a 'bad ass' so we can conceive anything. (02:51:38 AM) Juyun Kim: ....Get a girl and have her give birth to a fully synthetic being? Give birth to a God? MWA HAHAHAHA. -- 2011-11-28 (04:27:13 PM) Juyun Kim: 2 more weeks and i should have the money. Damn too long. (04:30:23 PM) Juyun Kim: Ok tell me your bank account number. Im gonna try and have someone from Hyundai to send you 5000 as a start. (04:31:17 PM) kanzure: you can send a check to me (04:32:28 PM) Juyun Kim: No. Too late. Unless you want to work immediately without knowing the check will go through. Because i need your services now. And bank transfer will take 24 hours or less. (04:34:34 PM) Juyun Kim: This is time sensitive. (04:39:00 PM) Juyun Kim: Whats the hold up. I am asking for bank transfer info. Not your password. (04:44:26 PM) Juyun Kim: Just trying to get this korean engineer to respond. We became 'blood brothers' though the guy is in his 50s (04:50:29 PM) Juyun Kim: i dont have a particular choice on the matter its to their convenience... So i dont think its likely they will use paypal. But if it happens they will use bank transfer. (04:51:18 PM) Juyun Kim: But the guy im talking to is not quite trustworthy. So im really just trying this out of the blue. Trying to make it sound like a business obligation. (04:51:02 PM) kanzure: tell them to call me. (04:59:15 PM) Juyun Kim: 1. Not a small branch who has their own incorporation working as a broker to hyundai who i am communicating. 2. this attempt for you to making me connect you to my main source can be regarded as a hijacking. 3. It also shows your distrust to me not telling me your banking transfer info directly. 4. Something as simple as a money transfer info should be dealt easily without having to go through mind gymnastics of suspicion. So what are you trying to do here? (05:03:27 PM) Juyun Kim: So it would be nice to send over standard banking info. So sorry for suspicion but i must keep alert and always gotta put the idea in the back of head. (05:05:57 PM) Juyun Kim: I dont get it whats the deal? Everybody in the world exchanges transfer info. its how banks make their transfers. (05:06:23 PM) Juyun Kim: Can someone do something with bank account number alone without password? (05:09:09 PM) Juyun Kim: I think you are over thinking. You should call a relative and ask if this is safe or not. I am asking nothing nore than standard transfer info. (05:10:19 PM) Juyun Kim: And for further higher commissionsyou think that will be handled by paypal? No way. We would need records beyond electronic transfers. Bank to bank transfer. (05:11:00 PM) Juyun Kim: Obviously you have not dealt with much bank transfers. Hmm... (05:13:49 PM) Juyun Kim: And i doubt anybody would use paypal and make a account like now and attach their banking info and transfer the.money to paypal. LOL (05:14:06 PM) Juyun Kim: That would take days. (05:15:06 PM) Juyun Kim: Everyone works with bank info Bryan. I dont know what your paranoia is about. I have no skills in messing with banking accounts nor has any interests. (05:17:36 PM) Juyun Kim: How is this. Why dont you go out today and make a new bank account. (05:17:57 PM) Juyun Kim: One that has nothing more than your own standard maintenance deposit. (05:18:28 PM) Juyun Kim: Then tell me the transfer info on that. (05:19:54 PM) Juyun Kim: How on earth do you expect me to send you like tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars? Paypal? Not gonna happen that way. Make a dedicated bank account for you and me. (05:34:26 PM) Juyun Kim: did u want to make a new bank account? I can keep trying to say paypal but if their office dont have any staff who use paypal, they want bank info. (05:35:14 PM) Juyun Kim: Whcih is everyones standard use. If you are concerned just make a new bank account. (05:35:51 PM) Juyun Kim: wait how long does it.take to do.that dudge (05:52:58 PM) Juyun Kim: its somewhat highky time sensitive because i need to submit a document to vanuatu government stating their benefits besides the obvious. (05:53:35 PM) Juyun Kim: So u do not want to cooperate besides the paypal? State your choice. (06:14:23 PM) Juyun Kim: I take it from your silence u do not want to participate. Alright i will find someone else for this specific task. We will work on something else later then.... I am disappointed by your lack of enthusiasm. (06:18:37 PM) Juyun Kim: btw you should ask your connections in korea if i was telling the truth or not with paypal and bank info. (11:44:16 PM) Juyun Kim: Looks like i will be appointed general of Vanuatu military. Next few years. More access to political network. No lies. (12:15:42 AM) Juyun Kim: have u done something bad with ur bank account or something why such abnormal conceit. -- 2011-12-13 (12/12/2011 01:15:58 PM) Juyun Kim: hey (12/12/2011 01:16:35 PM) Juyun Kim: Standby just a little longer.... Few weeks maybe and i will send you the money by paypal. (12:02:12 PM) jyk0106@gmail.com is now known as Sonny Kim. -- 2012-01-11 (02:03:13 AM) Juyun Kim: how many people relating to transhumanism movement (and actually developing something that relates to it) is there you think? (02:07:01 AM) Juyun Kim: lot of people i'm sure are trying to advance their cognitive abilities with drugs but have you seen anyone trying to enhance their body - in such a way that - you become stronger, faster, powerful, faster responses etc (I know it sounds childish but it should be part of this transhumanism stuff) by endo-mechanical means? like hacking into the body with mechanical engineering. (02:07:32 AM) Juyun Kim: i am thinking, just briefly thinking about what if we form a company dedicated to transhumanism but right now, more in research phase (02:08:10 AM) Juyun Kim: important discussion i think... oh you went sleep (08:49:58 PM) Juyun Kim: you wouldn't know about any devices or mechanical system that people implant in their selves to increase their strength/power (kind of like exoskeleton suit that they make for soldiers to lift heavy things) but endo- implanted inside the body. (strange question but i'm just thinking about some interesting things we could get into in transhuman-related tech. (08:50:31 PM) Juyun Kim: i have signed a contract with hyundai - i get 750,000 USD + KIA sportege (car) (08:50:41 PM) Juyun Kim: but thats personal stuff... (08:51:23 PM) Juyun Kim: everything else seems to be going as planned as well. (08:52:53 PM) Juyun Kim: making an official transhuman technology company would be... little out there. people would not accept it. (08:53:34 PM) Juyun Kim: but i think we should make a solid foundation/philosophy/goal even though it wouldn't be a separate registered corporation.. (08:54:52 PM) Juyun Kim: and i could keep on funding depending on the applications... (08:55:23 PM) Juyun Kim: i dont know. just a concept im thinking about. -- 2012-01-25 (07:13:34 PM) Juyun Kim: damn im in trouble with my visa (07:13:50 PM) Juyun Kim: didnt have much when i came here so i neglected making a permanent residency (07:13:56 PM) Juyun Kim: now i might end up going jail (07:14:02 PM) Juyun Kim: for 2 years (07:14:07 PM) Juyun Kim: fuck... (07:14:22 PM) Juyun Kim: business wise, everything is working smoothly, so it seems (07:14:41 PM) Juyun Kim: signed a contract 750k with hyundai plus a kia motors car (07:14:54 PM) Juyun Kim: how's it going? what are you up to ? -- 2012-03-06 (12:24:00 PM) Juyun Kim: I'm in Canada Toronto right now (12:24:09 PM) Juyun Kim: How about you (12:26:24 PM) Juyun Kim: I'm here to get proof of cellagen process (12:26:51 PM) Juyun Kim: Got many more investors lined up (12:27:03 PM) Juyun Kim: Hopefully it will work out (12:27:26 PM) Juyun Kim: I'll let u know how it turns out and start something together (09:30:58 PM) Juyun Kim: Don't believe u went to tokyo for nothing hahaha (09:31:09 PM) Juyun Kim: What u doin there (09:31:37 PM) Juyun Kim: To enter otaku convention don't tell me that (10:15:04 PM) Juyun Kim: Damn I need support. (10:15:35 PM) Juyun Kim: No money came outta vanuatu because immigration office said leave now or two years in jail time. (10:15:53 PM) Juyun Kim: Now in toronto. Making my end. (10:16:07 PM) Juyun Kim: Fve dollars left. Lol (10:16:29 PM) Juyun Kim: U don't got money I can burrow by western union do u (10:17:02 PM) Juyun Kim: Silence.... (12:30:24 AM) Juyun Kim: U don't wanna talk do u -- 2012-03-15 (10:06:48 PM) Juyun Kim: What u doin there in tokyo secret project (10:07:04 PM) Juyun Kim: U dont want to talk to me (10:07:44 PM) Juyun Kim: Would u prefer we sever communication -- 2012-03-29 (05:36:56 PM) Juyun Kim: Bryan can you please help me out and send me the million dollar manual? From mazu.com (05:37:20 PM) Juyun Kim: Should be Mdm4.pdf (06:03:09 PM) Juyun Kim: Help? (06:03:26 PM) Juyun Kim: Come on man -- 2012-03-30 (09:56:40 AM) Juyun Kim: hullo man (09:57:05 AM) Juyun Kim: dont you wañt to hear about what has been going on (09:57:30 AM) Juyun Kim: how much wevè grown (09:57:52 AM) Juyun Kim: i was hoping we can work together as well (09:58:05 AM) Juyun Kim: but u r not commnicative enough (09:58:20 AM) Juyun Kim: never actually. just as well. (09:58:43 AM) Juyun Kim: whats the deal ma. you dont want to talk -- 2012-04-12 (03:27:42 PM) Juyun Kim: what u upto these days. how u doin bryan. (03:27:53 PM) Juyun Kim: nething new? -- 2012-04-18 (03:20:51 PM) Juyun Kim: u gone with the wind? -- 2012-04-25 (11:42:48 AM) Juyun Kim: You wanna be hired as chief of secretary (USA) ? (11:42:57 AM) Juyun Kim: GeoDesic Technologies. (11:43:02 AM) Juyun Kim: im chairman. (11:43:17 AM) Juyun Kim: funding we begin with 100 mil. (11:43:55 AM) kanzure: don't see you: http://geodesic.com/about/management.php?cat=man (11:44:16 AM) Juyun Kim: what? (11:44:22 AM) Juyun Kim: we didnt make any website (11:44:48 AM) Juyun Kim: what the heck is this (11:45:24 AM) Juyun Kim: GeoDesic Technologies will be registered in USA. BioCentis will be the name of the facility we build on Vanuatu. (11:46:08 AM) Juyun Kim: I am appointing a mech. engineer from S.Korea who designs engins for hyundai as chief of secretary in Asia. (11:47:27 AM) Juyun Kim: well, its up to you. we go back a long way and you know your stuff and i can learn a lot from you so im asking. (11:47:44 AM) Juyun Kim: but if you dont want it. ill find someone else i suppose. (11:48:07 AM) Juyun Kim: send me ur resume if you are interested. (11:48:37 AM) Juyun Kim: there are no lies in what i say and that is final. put your guard down. (12:03:23 PM) Juyun Kim: with the korean engineer, our eventual work is to design cars and sports submersible for marine life research and resources. (12:03:49 PM) Juyun Kim: but what would you want... (12:04:23 PM) Juyun Kim: i dont think youd be interested in promoting the company but rather start one yourself when u have enough money right? (12:04:34 PM) Juyun Kim: and quit when given a chance to do so. (12:05:00 PM) Juyun Kim: no clue... (12:05:30 PM) Juyun Kim: anyways, you dont seem that responsive once again, so thats it then. (12:08:16 PM) Juyun Kim: best of everything in your future endeavors. (12:09:38 PM) Juyun Kim: ler me know if your interested within few hours. (12:10:00 PM) Juyun Kim: for me, this is the time to lock in the faculty. (12:14:28 PM) Juyun Kim: how about replying now? (12:14:35 PM) Juyun Kim: interested? (12:33:55 PM) Juyun Kim: alright i take it then that u r not interested. (12:34:06 PM) Juyun Kim: we cant communicate this way anywah (12:34:22 PM) Juyun Kim: anyway. u r hardly responsive. (12:34:40 PM) Juyun Kim: but i am sure you are already succeeding well. (12:35:17 PM) Juyun Kim: ok bryan, i hope you well. i am removing you from my list. (12:37:28 PM) Juyun Kim: good bye. -- 2012-07-16 (02:42:01 PM) Juyun Kim: hey. how's it going. Sonny here. (formerly Jake to you) lol (02:42:13 PM) Juyun Kim: or last name Kim. (02:42:36 PM) Juyun Kim: anything new going on with you? (02:42:49 PM) Juyun Kim: i am still on the process of negotiation - it's going alright. (02:43:08 PM) Juyun Kim: when it begins, i want to work with you. (02:43:20 PM) Juyun Kim: if that's what you want. (02:43:42 PM) Juyun Kim: kanzure, you there? (02:43:51 PM) Juyun Kim: also added you on FB. (02:43:55 PM) Juyun Kim: as Harvey Kim (02:44:04 PM) Juyun Kim: I am deciding on a English name to choose (02:44:15 PM) Juyun Kim: or a different name to change legally. (02:44:34 PM) Juyun Kim: what could happen is this- (02:44:40 PM) Juyun Kim: the company we are forming, (02:44:43 PM) Juyun Kim: if it will be formed, (02:44:54 PM) Juyun Kim: will be pursuing all technologies pertaining to life extension. (02:45:08 PM) Juyun Kim: and transhumanism. (if applicable to life extension) (02:45:43 PM) Juyun Kim: beyond this, i can develop any type of mechanical/electrical gadgets that can help out the economy of Vanuatu- (02:45:49 PM) Juyun Kim: branded under it's name - (02:45:58 PM) Juyun Kim: to negotiate through politicians- (02:46:12 PM) Juyun Kim: and help spread it through united nations - (02:46:22 PM) Juyun Kim: toward helping/aid of needs of the 3rd world nations. (02:46:27 PM) Juyun Kim: i am not making this up (02:46:52 PM) Juyun Kim: and - if you were to become my personal advisor (i've selected 2 so far) (02:47:23 PM) Juyun Kim: you will of course, get the commission working the project (whichever that may be) with me. (02:47:37 PM) Juyun Kim: so we decide together on everything. (02:48:16 PM) Juyun Kim: what are you up to. (02:48:20 PM) Juyun Kim: what do you do now. (02:48:45 PM) Juyun Kim: r u getting paid. (02:50:44 PM) Juyun Kim: hello?????????? (02:51:00 PM) Juyun Kim: where can i go and meet you personally? (02:51:10 PM) Juyun Kim: San Francisco? (02:51:19 PM) Juyun Kim: or Austin, Texas? (02:51:35 PM) Juyun Kim: I am in Toronto, Canada right now. (02:51:50 PM) Juyun Kim: I will be going around USA. (02:52:17 PM) Juyun Kim: If you don't want to work with me, let me know... (02:54:27 PM) Juyun Kim: hmm (02:54:50 PM) Juyun Kim: do i go to your workshop? (02:54:55 PM) Juyun Kim: where can i go and meet you. (02:55:56 PM) Juyun Kim: let's work together. we'll conquer aging and advance amazing technologies! (02:56:14 PM) Juyun Kim: like artificial intelligence, space travel whatever. (02:56:20 PM) Juyun Kim: nanotech especially. (02:56:29 PM) Juyun Kim: we'll fund each and every one of them. (02:56:44 PM) Juyun Kim: Bryan, i'm serious. (02:56:56 PM) Juyun Kim: But if you are already a success, and don't need anyone- (02:57:08 PM) Juyun Kim: well, you can always have another partner. (02:57:25 PM) Juyun Kim: if there's anything you wanna know. let me know :p (03:08:02 PM) Juyun Kim: geezes Bryan, you don't communicate at all now. (03:08:07 PM) Juyun Kim: why? (03:10:28 PM) Juyun Kim: let me know where i can go and meet you personally. so we can discuss prospects- (03:10:51 PM) Juyun Kim: there is no scheme involved in this. i genuinely want to advance technology of life extension and beyond - (03:11:22 PM) Juyun Kim: we've been acquainted before somewhat that's why i feel at ease talking with you (03:11:51 PM) Juyun Kim: but if your response is limited, or none at all, i suppose you do not wish to be part of it. (03:12:43 PM) Juyun Kim: my intentions are good and with aspiration. nothing petty or suspicious. (03:12:56 PM) Juyun Kim: anyways, i've spoken enough. let me know if you're interested. thanks. (04:26:06 PM) Juyun Kim: oh and i joke around a lot (04:26:14 PM) Juyun Kim: so if i said anything peculiar --- (04:26:20 PM) Juyun Kim: don't think much about it (04:27:05 PM) Juyun Kim: hahaha i saw you hesitate on typing :P (04:27:36 PM) Juyun Kim: but i dont get it, why no speak bryan (04:27:38 PM) Juyun Kim: what happened (04:27:48 PM) Juyun Kim: we used to chat a lot didn't we? (04:28:12 PM) Juyun Kim: had some ups and downs sure, but- (04:28:18 PM) Juyun Kim: here i got some hopes coming in. (04:28:34 PM) Juyun Kim: i just wanted to make a plan to utilise it fully (04:28:47 PM) Juyun Kim: while giving you advantages - (04:28:56 PM) Juyun Kim: to change life, while chaning mine.. (04:29:02 PM) Juyun Kim: err... im not getting through to you (04:29:07 PM) Juyun Kim: nevermind man. (04:29:57 PM) Juyun Kim: if you also happen to have a project in mind, (04:30:03 PM) Juyun Kim: i can try and connect to the investors - (04:30:12 PM) Juyun Kim: but under our company name (04:30:41 PM) Juyun Kim: of course, shares of commission and percentages will be prevailed----amongst everyone involved. (04:30:54 PM) Juyun Kim: but your age and credentials - is a issue (04:31:14 PM) Juyun Kim: but if you can team up with someone renowned, and then make a project- (04:31:23 PM) Juyun Kim: functional, with projected returns and everything (04:31:26 PM) Juyun Kim: anything is possible. (04:31:39 PM) Juyun Kim: but then again. you don't seem to trust me - (04:31:47 PM) Juyun Kim: since there is no response from you (04:32:00 PM) Juyun Kim: so what the heck am i writing on this chat window for hahaha (04:32:24 PM) Juyun Kim: i don't know man, nvm (04:36:56 PM) Juyun Kim: obviously there's something you are fearing hmm... (04:37:09 PM) Juyun Kim: dude man, i'm not that bad of a person. --- Log opened Wed Dec 26 10:35:11 2012 10:35 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with Zimmeri 10:35 i should thank you man, for showing me C.I 10:35 if it wasnt for you, i wouldnt be aware and could be dead right now 10:36 im gonna try and get funding for manufacturing plantation anything CNC - 10:36 but in the scale of automotives/aerospace 10:36 with robotics like KUKA robot arms 10:37 that is another 100 M, and im hoping you'll work with me man. 10:37 if i said anything to offend you forget about it - you wouldnt say im totally sane after all that i went through. 10:37 or during. 10:38 im alright though 10:38 got proof for everything and we'll meet later if you want --- Log opened Wed Dec 26 10:12:39 2012 10:12 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with Zimmeri 10:12 ok 10:12 so let me introduce myself, 10:12 im 28 - 10:12 male, 10:13 east asian -(Korean) however nationality, Canadian, 10:13 having lived here for 18 years. 10:13 currently located in Waterloo, Ontario. 10:13 can you read my messages here right now? 10:13 give me an confirmation please. 10:13 yes, i think i've heard this before 10:13 yup 10:14 so what do you know, and what do you doubt? 10:14 i remember you were involved in some spam ring 10:14 or something like that 10:14 that was a long long time ago. 10:14 then i went over to a country called Vanuatu 10:14 between australia and fiji 10:14 did kanzure tell you about that? 10:15 oh, so you are the same person 10:15 he calls me "juls" ?! 10:15 no, juls calls himself juls 10:15 oh nvm 10:15 maybe that was someone you know 10:15 yes, i have nothing to hide 10:15 how many people in fiji with millions in investment come into any given irc channel? really now 10:16 umm 10:16 Vanuatu. And i have the details of what i work with- 10:16 sigh, Kanzure knows about it, 10:16 and- can you please keep this information to yourself? 10:17 obviously, i can't completely rely on that integrity having talking through online- 10:17 but- 10:17 so you were never in Suva, Fiji? 10:17 no, Vanuatu, Efate. 10:17 okay 10:17 Ok, so i'm funded 100 M (not I specifically) for the geriatrics project i mentioned. 10:18 Specifically speaking, Cellagen. 10:18 With Dr.Kleinsek. 10:18 we are building a facility for cell based therapies. 10:18 life-extension, cellular regeneration/rejuvenation. 10:18 mostly treating - age related illnesses. 10:19 ok, so having said that, 10:19 im the broker to the investors. 10:19 and they hold over 120 billion dollars in funding to be "spent" 10:19 could you explain what a broker does? 10:19 im the middle man between the source (cellagen) and the investor. 10:20 actually, to be more specific, 10:20 im the representative of Cellagen, and the representative of the investor is someone else, 10:20 this person's name is Mr.Choi. (he is Korean) 10:20 I met him in Vanuatu, funding a cargo terminal and depot project 10:21 being connected to the former prime minister there, barak sope. 10:21 whom i was connected to personally. 10:21 long story short is this: 10:21 i make another presentation to assist in the economic development of vanuatu, 10:22 and it "will" be funded another 100 M 10:22 so i suggested that idea - 10:22 why automotive manufacturing? vu is wayy off the international shipping lanes 10:22 where we create a manufacturing plantation using computer numerical controlled machines (KUKA robotics) 10:22 it doesnt have to be - 10:22 automotives. 10:22 but i was saying that because- 10:23 KUKA machines can first of all, can create anything with the materials and CAD. 10:23 not quite 10:23 and secondly, having being connected directly toward the politics of vanuatu, 10:23 ANY 10:23 type of vehicles or something of significance that can be branded under the nation's name, 10:23 can be easily commercialized through 10:24 nations to nations using politics. 10:24 which i was mentioning earlier. 10:24 it's like, you buy this from us, then we provide this to you at this price etc. 10:24 and the higher officials usually agree, provided that what we produce is of quality and to their standards. 10:24 right, i am aware of the history of vanuatu phosphate mining debacle 10:25 wow 10:25 and now they want to invest in their future instead of squandering it on more bmw's and jets and stuff 10:25 i was involved in mining nickel at the new caledonia- 10:25 and at the erromango island of vanuatu, 10:25 i even forgot what we were involved in now. 10:25 but wow you are informed. 10:26 economic development, to speak frankly, 10:26 i dont care. 10:26 about vanuatu. 10:26 this is just an excuse for the investors to simply release their money. 10:26 if they are so into economic development of a micro nation to move their money, (creating a presence there) 10:27 that is their problem really. 10:27 what i want to give them is a reason. 10:27 for them, this 100M is NOTHING. 10:27 for me,- 10:27 do you know about the kaust.edu.sa? 10:28 king abdullah university of science and technology 10:28 well, it's a lot, though it's not the money im getting personally. but it's authority and power/presence with the company i get. 10:28 No i am not aware of it. 10:28 what is it 10:28 brb 10:29 well, the saudi king saw he was in a similar position, with oil set to run out in twenty years, so he decided to invest a few billion in a university to attract smart people to his country, and provide for a future economic base 10:30 it's been going for three(?) years now, with some teething problems but nothing insurmountable 10:30 this is not the same case. 10:30 the investors here are people with more selfish motives. 10:30 they simply want to move the money to a tax haven country such as vanuatu. 10:30 oh, they are foreign investors 10:31 yes chinese. 10:31 though i cant talk about too much in detail. 10:31 so what they are spending isnt exactly for their sustenance, or toward investment for profit (though obviously they are going for that) 10:31 why would they take a risk at all then? why not just invest in commodities 10:32 they want, individually speaking, a domain in vanuatu, and "spending" the money there in vanuatu in order to release it. 10:32 release it from where? 10:32 the country itself. 10:32 it's not THEIR money particularly speaking. 10:33 the government officials i guess- 10:33 they just need a reason to live better, with more dominance and power 10:33 beyond their own country. 10:33 so for them, it's good for their country, good for the individuals, 10:33 everybody wins. 10:34 do you see it now? haha 10:34 i guess 10:34 i know, im trying to write this as not cryptic as much as possible 10:34 but there are info that i have to keep confidential, 10:34 they are bureaucrats and want to be capitalist barons 10:34 such is the name of the investors and all. 10:35 yes, while benefiting their country, and themselves - to be more specific. 10:35 so the representative of this investor group, 10:35 mr.choi, 10:35 has succeeded in funding 100m for the biogerontology project. 10:35 they just need more and more- 10:35 reasons. 10:36 what im suggesting here, is a perfect reason for them. 10:36 btw, kanzure need not know about it, he asked me to connect him to the investors directly 10:36 quite strongly, adamantely, rudely, i might add. 10:37 and i refused (having argueing for 30 mins) saying that, i 10:37 if you - bring something to the table as significant as Cellagen, 10:37 then we'll talk. 10:37 THAT IS THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAD OVER A YEAR AGO 10:37 AND HE WONT SPEAK TO ME. 10:37 he's bit of an asshole. 10:37 i think he doesn't believe you 10:38 well, i dont believe him. the matter of fact is that, i have presentations here- 10:38 comprehensive (biogerontology) 10:38 and if we were to meet in PERSON 10:38 i can show him what I went through. 10:38 or whomever, 10:38 if you want to be that person yes. 10:39 i was in internet marketing, having extending my interest to life extension technologies - 10:39 but this is not my skill. 10:40 but isnt this exciting? 10:40 i dont care whether bryan believes me or not 10:40 why are you interested in life extension technologies? 10:40 how can i not? 10:40 okay that's a reasonable answer 10:41 i dont want to die when there's infinite more technologies around the corner? 10:41 nanotech. 10:41 quantum physics/A.I 10:41 these are great things to invest in, why not pitch them instead? 10:41 what? no way. these are not "great" in the view of the investors. 10:42 they are just not practical in this realm of "atoms and bits" 10:42 so far. 10:42 as profits go. and the investors, while they are educated, 10:42 they are very high risk investments, but i wouldn't say not practical, if it works 10:42 they think in terms of ---- bigger - 10:42 err magnitude - 10:42 not in scale of nano and molecular whatever. 10:43 cellagen is real. 10:43 is a FDA approved technology. 10:43 manufacturing? 10:43 it depends on how much the vanuatu government is willing to share their resources (which should be all of it) 10:43 raw materials i mean. 10:44 instead trying on selling the raw materials- 10:44 make something of it. intellectual properties. 10:44 there are many many steps between raw ore and a car or a laptop 10:44 ......... 10:44 well i am aware of that 10:44 it's not me who is doing that though 10:44 is it. 10:44 lol 10:45 i just need to make enough, so it becomes plausible, and then with the funding goes the directing. 10:45 (or hiring of) 10:45 if you want to do the entire vertical supply chain you have to multiply the risk of each step to get the total risk of the business 10:46 yes that profit factor is the most - im worried about in the presentation 10:46 right now, my step is to get the equipment listing and facility design based on the equipment 10:46 the manufacturing processes 10:46 it's really hard to justify manufacturing on vanuatu 10:46 before i can make judgment on the profit. 10:46 fenn, it's not about justification, 10:46 these are not your ordinary investors 10:46 as i mentioned earlier, 10:46 anyone can point to china and say "hey why not just make it there at 1/10 the cost?" 10:46 it's "free" funding. 10:47 i know 10:47 again, 10:47 so, assuming we're going to build this mars base 10:47 these are for much more selfish motives/in the name of philanthropy. 10:48 why not make something cool like basalt fiber 10:48 i guess you want to talk about then what you get out of it 10:48 i have no idea what that is 10:48 it's like carbon fiber, but made from rock dust 10:48 whats it for? 10:48 anyway, why cars? just because it has prestige? 10:49 i was thinking more along the lines of mining ocean reserves - 10:49 it's a composite material for lightweight rigid parts of all kinds 10:49 and building of- 10:49 relating. 10:49 er, say that again? 10:49 also, its because0 10:50 the investors- the believability revolves around - 10:50 THEIR understanding. 10:50 if it seems like a technical jargon, 10:50 i dont even know if the representative will understand. 10:50 why im thinking much more primitive, also, easy to deal over politics and united nations 10:51 eco-related anything 10:51 oh - what i meant by ocean reserve mining- 10:51 thats just something a friend of mine from hyundai engineering (he designs engines) 10:51 share. 10:52 i thought along the lines of KUKA machines being able to produce and create anything of mass scale/assembly 10:52 what is an ocean reserve? 10:52 if automotives, aerospace, and marine equipment 10:52 ocean mining. 10:52 mining the ocean reserves. 10:52 under the sea floor? 10:52 of oil and other natural resources. 10:53 under the sea floor in a reasonable level (if the ground is high enough, like vanuatu) 10:53 which will need extensive studies based on it 10:53 definitely 10:53 but like i said, it's just a dream and prospect i share with a friend. 10:54 but basically, anything in the name of economic/recycle/sustenance- 10:54 do you know about OTEC? 10:54 can be included. it's a development project assisting in THEIR economy after all. 10:54 no man. 10:54 what is it... 10:54 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTEC 10:54 basically it's a way to use the ocean as a solar energy collector 10:55 yes i suggested this to barak sope 10:55 you can use the runoff from the process to feed fish farms 10:55 and he back stabbed me and dealt with other investors 10:55 vanuatu is on the ring of fire. geothermal energy 10:55 i suggested, - and that is being worked on right now. 10:55 cool 10:56 but yeah man, that is exactly in the lines im thinking of 10:56 anything can be built - with these machines that can be used to go into- 10:56 OTEC is not quite geothermal, it's a different process, but it also depends on the local sea floor geography 10:56 different development projects like these and that is the goal of this presentation... 10:56 i see 10:56 we could put that...... 10:57 provided the plasibility of digging through several miles of ocean floors to reach......... 10:57 err 10:57 whichever way... 10:57 no, it's just laying pipes 10:57 oh 10:58 so im guessing you know various different areas like these 10:58 why i came to this channel 10:58 having monitoring it for years 10:58 i know a little about everything, but i'm no specialist 10:58 under different names 10:58 lol 10:58 i know i know, but that is good enough. leads are good enough to be a director. the details we can work on, 10:58 and the real serious details, we hire. 10:59 are you in texas? 10:59 here's a decent overview diagram of the system http://technoccult.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/otec.jpg 10:59 i'm in DC now 11:00 wow thats far 11:00 while im in waterloo uni- 11:00 warm surface water (red pipes) boils into steam, powering a turbine, and cooled off by cold water from deep (blue pipes) 11:01 currently, it is hard to find people of common interests... sigh.. 11:01 are you a student? 11:01 no im not, just here to network for this presentation and my experiments (soon to be) on total body rejuvenation. 11:02 i spent most of my biology undergrad reading about jet engines :| 11:02 you can be the perfect person i am looking for. 11:02 i also have a friend here who is willing to go anywhere for reference 11:02 like associations - for a tour 11:03 are you working then right now? 11:03 no, not really 11:03 i don't mind traveling, but i don't have any money either 11:03 i see. 11:03 supposedly, by the end of next month, 11:03 im to get 250k. 11:03 which is a part of my commission payout 11:04 from cellagen? 11:04 i can spend money to meet you of course. 11:04 yes. 11:04 just waiting on that. 11:04 fair warning, DC is quite boring 11:04 i figure i got 6 months, or more to finish this manufacturing presentation for the investors. 11:04 i dont care, im going there to work, 11:05 ill meet you, and show you what im involved in, and we can experiment/make presentations together. 11:05 ill need your knowledge. 11:05 to be honest, it's hard to work with bryan. 11:05 he is brilliant, but oh man. 11:05 communication. 11:06 i havent yet met him, and i suggested, he doesnt want to. 11:06 :P 11:06 well, he's much the same online as in meatspace 11:06 oh 11:06 lol so much for that, we conversed about internet marketing for 2 years 11:07 did a lot of "experiments" together 11:07 i think you affected his life more than you realize 11:07 he used to be much more idealistic and not motivated by money at all 11:07 during the time i was into learning about search engines/linking/social profile sites/value system/advertising funnel etc 11:07 that, i am certain i have... 11:08 but... 11:08 you know you dont just don't talk to the person who you've acquainted for years 11:08 even be it online. 11:08 we connect, and share further motives and interests. 11:09 if my goal is in life extension, cryonics, A.I, human enhancement etc.. 11:09 and im trying to gather as much funding and experiements for that- 11:09 im in his goal. 11:09 if he thinks he can do this alone, ----he's really wasting a lot of his own potential. 11:10 im not his competition. nobody is really a competition to each other. they are just teaming together for reaching a same goal. 11:10 anyways 11:10 it's easy to get disillusioned about investment money when you've seen so many startups fail 11:10 i have tried... 5 times i think? to reconcile? 11:10 i give up on that. 11:10 yes, one shouldn't chase money but ideas. that is true. but once you have enough ideas, you chase money. 11:11 lol 11:11 heh 11:11 i need to get organized 11:11 synchronization - of politics, funding, technology 11:11 ok 11:11 just in general 11:12 ok so can i count you to be in our circle? 11:12 i will provide more info 11:12 of course and you can read them 11:12 but there is a trust issue here- 11:12 i'm free to provide advice and make my own judgements 11:12 and i am hoping to meet you in person 11:12 and meeting up whenever 11:12 ok sounds good. 11:13 alright i will keep on updating then, 11:13 i do have an odd sleep schedule, so please check in advance to see if i'm awake 11:13 oh 11:13 can i put you in trillian? 11:13 for example today i woke up at 10 pm local time 11:13 you can respond to my messages when you feel up to it, im not fixated by time schedule at the moment either. 11:13 i'm not sure what that means. trillian is a chat application you prefer? 11:13 yes 11:14 i can put you in gtalk or something 11:14 i keep forgetting to come back to IRC 11:14 i prefer to have you in the chat network 11:14 hm. google chat is more realistic for me than some proprietary chat program 11:14 lol 11:14 ok 11:14 some *other* proprietary chat program 11:15 i'm fennfoot@gmail.com 11:15 ok great 11:15 you mean like AIM 11:15 that is horrible client 11:15 full of some malwares or something 11:16 it's just there are only so many modes of communication one can use and monitor consistently 11:16 ok added. my email is jyk0106@gmail.com 11:16 yup... 11:17 maybe we can shut down the branch of the facility for our own uses later... 11:17 hehehe 11:17 make a dark knight type of automobile or a flight machine 11:17 personal use. 11:17 i want the damn KUKA machines. 11:18 oh btw - my idea came from this book: 11:18 makers by chris anderson 11:18 chapter 8 he mentions about NUMMI (teslat automotive manufacturing companY) 11:18 and the KUKA machines that they use 11:19 makers by cory doctorow was spookily similar to my life 11:19 ok, i will skim through that book im constantly researching right now 11:19 i can also use your help in the total body rejuvenation - 11:20 project as i have no idea about biology i need to learn the game play 11:20 yes that is actually my current hobby 11:20 i see. with cellagen, i think it's possible... 11:20 i've been experimenting with various supplements and reading about the biochemistry of nutrition 11:20 besides the 250k my commission, mr.choi told me to get a equipment listing 11:21 at 300k, so ordering a additive layer laser cusing device for assisting with the distribution of cell based therapy 11:21 hm we probably have one around.. 11:21 cool, ive been reading about detoxing 11:21 lol 11:21 what kind of detoxing 11:22 ok great, so we have common goal and motive, we need to synchronize with exchange of references, and building of trust. 11:22 no no, i was just reading detoxing for dummies. and im taking green tea tablets and barley grass juice right nomw 11:22 nothing significant. 11:22 hum okay 11:22 though we speak of nanotech, cell based therapies and all that- 11:23 it's important not to forget our daily routine in check 11:23 with supplements, nutrition, and being careful with what we consume, exercise etc. 11:23 i am skeptical of most "detox" theories out there, having believed many of them myself and been proven wrong by science 11:24 one thing that keeps coming up again and again is minerals, especially magnesium 11:24 and the need for more "ocean" in our life 11:24 you are probably right, i just wanted to be notified of the general knowledge, basically, im trying to avoid processed food as much as possible and take in vegetables that "cleanses the system." 11:24 they say mercury in "ocean" life 11:24 is toxic, 11:25 and unnecessary stuff 11:25 err i dont know what im talking about lol 11:25 hah, there's also selenium, which binds to mercury and detoxifies it (that is real science) 11:25 oh 11:25 wow didnt know about that. guess i can eat fish now 11:25 ROFL 11:25 right right - ok 11:25 so im gonna research on KUKA 11:25 actually it's the other way around, mercury binds to selenium and inactivates it, leaving less available for your body 11:26 anyway, good luck with kuka 11:26 right... 11:26 if you get stuck on any concepts just ask in the channel 11:26 yes im going to try and find references on it... 11:26 could i expect your involvement in my projects later then after we meet perhaps? 11:27 perhaps 11:27 or after i prove of my involvement with different- documents 11:27 ok 11:27 alright then. i will continue try and find the fundamentals for the presentations 11:27 *presentation 11:27 hmmm 11:27 if there is anything you want to suggest - 11:28 since your goal and mine seem to be similar- 11:28 or the same. 11:28 300k for personal equipment. 11:28 so suggest to me what to purchase later. 11:28 and also, if you ever come across... facility designs - 11:29 it's layout, systems for lean manufacturing model using robotics 11:29 send it over please. 11:29 anyways, nice talking to you - please keep everything confidential 11:29 here's a bio lab equipment list, if it helps http://openwetware.org/index.php?title=Stanford_Biochemistry/equipment_list&oldid=410937 11:30 and i will collect resources on what we should talk about later as well. if i leave a message, you can respond to me at your conveninence. 11:30 also need a reagents list 11:30 i have presentation on Cellagen - 11:30 with the equipment listing, i will compare it with this listing and find it's uses. 11:30 must focus on the KUKA plus it's uses though. your energy extraction from ocean - 11:31 that can be incorporated with this manufacturing plant, should it produce the parts for it 11:31 yeah don't get too distracted, ideas are a dime a dozen 11:31 so center of the model should be manufacturing plantation from CAD to prototypes... 11:32 yes, trying to pick out the core concepts and what is realistic as much as possible... 11:32 alright gonna go research peace. 11:32 ciao --- Log closed Wed Dec 26 11:37:18 2012 20:02 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with Lucius_Fox 20:02 what is the reason for your hostility? 20:04 i'm not allowed to learn? 20:04 i'm not allowed to explore learning? 20:04 am i sabotaging your work? am I hurting you in any way possible. 20:04 NO. 20:05 merely hanging around the channel, asking questions some find interesting enough to engage. 20:06 you just can't stand to see someone rise. if you really cared for scientific discipline/any of it to develop, you would allow me to learn more, discuss. 20:07 stop reflecting on your ego. 20:10 <@kanzure> nmz787: no, this person has a history in this channel spanning 4 years 20:10 <@kanzure> nmz787: please don't jump to conclusions that quickly, dude. 20:10 <@kanzure> nmz787: i have sent you a pm with evidence. 20:10 wow you treat me like some kind of criminal. 20:10 if you want me to come out clean on the channel, so not to make you look like you are kicking someone "innocent" out, 20:10 i'll do that gladly. 20:11 or just copy and paste it to your friend there. 20:11 my intent is not to hurt your reputation in any way. i merely don't have any sources to learn. 20:11 i'm at the uni of waterloo here- 20:11 this is ontario, canada... 20:12 sigh have it your way. i need not ask questions. 20:13 i really can't see why we can't team up. you have a really eccentric personality. 20:15 i'll leave for good. i don't know you, you don't know me then. good bye. don't act like you've known me. You don't. 20:16 dear lord. 20:16 do you want to get sued? 20:17 don't talk about me, as if you've known me. 20:17 if i've done something to hurt you in any way possible, 20:17 you should state it. 20:17 btw, i have records of YOUR conversation as well. 20:17 your responses. 20:18 it wasn't exactly pleasant in any way, not to anyone. 20:19 i am sorry for joking around- 20:19 my intention wasn't bad. 20:19 sigh... 20:20 any way, looks like my being here is making you jumpy. 20:20 also, people are looking at you in the wrong way. 20:20 again, it's not my intention to hurt your reputation/credentials. 20:22 so i'll get out. but it is wrong of you to speak about me beyond this. i was morally/ethically wrong in many occasions, and it was merely thought expertiments. 20:22 this is your channel. you created it. 20:22 so the fact that you don't want me being here, 20:23 and i keep coming back is wrong. 20:23 my intent was to ask questions. 20:23 to stuff about - 20:23 technology in general. not to you specifically. 20:24 sigh 20:24 alright, it's your channel. i'm out for good. n 20:25 there was no need for such hostility. i was merely asking questions on software- 20:27 sorry about all that then... 20:28 -!- Lucius_Fox [~Undine@64.235.96.146] has quit [] (10:29:46 PM) Juyun Kim: look man, i won't go on your channel again alright? (10:30:31 PM) Juyun Kim: i just thought it was a good source for asking questions on/if i can gather any ideas. (10:30:44 PM) Juyun Kim: that is all i was hoping for. (10:31:14 PM) Juyun Kim: i'm sorry for going with a pseudo nick and talking there, asking about softwares. i'll use somewhere else. (10:31:49 PM) Juyun Kim: but jesus man, what an immense level of detachment. (10:32:08 PM) Juyun Kim: i'll delete you from this list as well. (10:33:04 PM) Juyun Kim: if also, i said anything to offend you, or give you some kind of wrong idea - (10:33:28 PM) Juyun Kim: i'm very sorry. during those times i was in internet marketing, i spent most of my time alone, in an apartment. (10:33:52 PM) Juyun Kim: since i wasn't going to meet anyone in actual life, (or so i thought) - (10:34:18 PM) Juyun Kim: i just messed around a lot with conversations- everything i said was pretty much hypothetical/imaginary. (10:34:48 PM) Juyun Kim: so if there was anything that resulted in your hostility now, (10:34:54 PM) Juyun Kim: forget about it. (10:36:33 PM) Juyun Kim: for what it's worth, if we had met in person and speaking one on one, we would be friends - just joking around - (10:36:48 PM) Juyun Kim: that's how i go about with my friends here... (10:38:52 PM) Juyun Kim: alright, i'm talking too much. have a nice life, and lets not talk about each other. i don't know you then, as you want it that way. it would've been nice if you had stated it more clearly before. sigh, cheers.