Re: Brin on privacy

Michael Lorrey (retroman@tpk.net)
Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:29:26 -0500


Eric Watt Forste wrote:
>
> Lyle Burkhead wrote:
> >Let me rephrase my original statement: using more encryption than
> >other people commonly use is like painting your windows black when
> >everybody else uses curtains. It just attracts attention.
>
> Why do you continue nattering about this topic as if you had never
> heard of steganography?
>
> I'm not going to look up the numbers and do the math for you (you're
> such a math genius I'm sure you can handle that yourself), but if
> you think the US federal government, or any government, has the
> resources not only to scan for and identify all encrypted messages
> in transit but also to single out the messages that are using
> stronger than usual encryption, especially when you add in the
> factor of steganography... well, actually, I know that you don't
> think that. You're not *that* stupid. You're just up to your usual
> tricks, sowing Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt whereever and whenever
> you think it will turn the game to your advantage.
>
> I know the NSA and other narc groups have black budgets, but the
> black budgets are simply not large enough to do surveillance as
> complete as you describe on as much bandwidth as they'd have to
> monitor to create the illusory dangers you are depicting. Various
> government bodies in the United States only eat about fifty percent
> of the economy, and most of that is accounted for outside of the
> black budgets. The kind of surveillance you describe would be so
> expensive that it would leave a signal in the accounting books at
> the macro level.
>
> Try again, Herr FUD. Perhaps you can describe us some sectors of
> the underground economy we've never heard of, and paint a pretty
> picture about how these sectors are funding the narcs in their
> nefarious schemes you'd like us to believe in.
>

Thats the real reason why the feds wanna regulate dietary supplements:
once they are illegal, the CIA can smuggle them in from Columbia and
sell them to extropians at black market prices, thus making us pay for
our own surveillance.

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TANSTAAFL!!!

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