> Good points.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harvey Newstrom [SMTP:harv@gate.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 1997 7:11 PM
> To: extropians@extropy.com
> Subject: Re: Uplifting anyone?
>
> On Fri, 14 Nov 1997 20:10:49 -0600, Ryan Marsh <ryanm@wl.net> said to
> 'Christopher Whipple' <byteboy@simons-rock.edu>:
>
> >As for MS products checking for piracy, I haven't been able to prove that
> >any current
> >products do what he said but it is possible to include that kind of
> >functionality. I am glad that MS
> >would do such a thing. Piracy is illegal is he supporting crime?
>
> No, I am not supporting crime. In fact, I was speaking out against
> programs that copy data from my computer without permission and transmits
> it over the network. I also was speaking out against programs that
> misrepresent themselves as a different program to try to gain unauthorized
> access to other computers over the network. You mistakenly assume that if
> I don't trust Microsoft to do anything it wants on my computer without my
> knowledge or permission, that I must have something to hide from them.
>
> >As for serving graphics incorrectly to Navigator, let me say the Netscape
> >Navigator is one of the
> >most unreliable pieces of software that I have ever used.[....]
>
> I never mentioned Netscape Navigator. You mistakenly assume that if I have
> a single negative point about Microsoft Internet Explorer, that I must be
> anti-Microsoft and pro-Netscape in the browser arena.
>
> >As for Wintel vs. Apple[....]
>
> I merely objected to your claim that Macintoshes are *twice* as costly as
> the equivalent PC. You mistakenly assumed that I was therefore anti-PC and
> pro-Mac. I tried to clear this up by pointing out that I have more PC's
> and Unixes in my home lab than Macs, and that I provide major consulting
> for IBM.
>
> >That's the biggest load of bullshit that I have ever heard. His mind is
> >brainwashed by the Rebel
> >Alliance.
> [....]
> >And last but not least, MS is a great company, honest. I have worked with
> >their guys on several
> >projects and I enjoy it everytime I do. They are extremely professional,
> >perfectionists, and they
> >have THE BEST coders I have ever run across in my entire life. Microsoft
> >is aggressive and smart.
> >Do any of us remember the mistake that Bill made about denouncing the
> >Internet? Now look at
> >their position on it, people are scared MS will take over. Also, take a
> >look at how MS used kiss
> >Apple's ass. Apple had the potential to become what MS is today. It's all
> >about make good business
> >decisions.
>
> You are the one caught up in the propoganda. Your entire post has been
> responding to points I never made. You are having a war with an imaginary
> opponent. I am not engaged in this argument, nor do I intend to be.
>
> __
> Harvey Newstrom (harv@gate.net)
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