KPJ <kpj@sics.se> wrote:
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|0. If I can replace the emotion FEAR with a "WARNING: DANGER" function which
| works as fast (=at a low level) as FEAR does, then I would replace it. I
| regard any person irresponsible who simply removes FEAR without replacing
| it with some other safeguard.
It appears as if Anders Sandberg <asa@nada.kth.se> wrote:
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|The question is then if this improved fear isn't just fear. The
|valence of an experience such as pain can be changed through mental
|discipline; maybe it is better to change the valence of fear rather
|than removing the emotion (given the problems people with Kluver-Bucy
|amygdala damage have just due to their fearfulness, it seems to be a
|good idea).
BTW, who has shown that the Kluver-Bucy syndrome exists in humans?
|Having a rousing emotion for dangerous situations is useful. The
|problem is that we just have a general purpose fear that is best tuned
|for physical danger. I think we might have more use with developing
|two more kinds of fear-reactions, one for social dangers and one for
|purely rational dangers, without all the body reactions that distract
|us.
I wonder how many could drive a car if their survival systems signalled:
**WARNING** YOU CAN DIE IF YOU LOSE CONTROL AT THIS VELOCITY **WARNING** YOU CAN DIE IF YOU LOSE CONTROL AT THIS VELOCITY **WARNING** YOU CAN DIE IF YOU LOSE CONTROL AT THIS VELOCITY **WARNING** YOU CAN DIE IF YOU LOSE CONTROL AT THIS VELOCITY **WARNING** YOU CAN DIE IF YOU LOSE CONTROL AT THIS VELOCITY **WARNING** YOU CAN DIE IF YOU LOSE CONTROL AT THIS VELOCITY
Currently fear works very much like this, overriding rational thought.
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KPJ:
|4. I would also remove various irrational emotions, such as envy and jealosy.
[Anders:]
|I think it is important to make a distinction between the desire for
|having something good that somebody else possess and the desire to
|remove the thing from his possession. The first state can be
|stimulating to achieve more ("KPJ has a wearable! Great idea! I must
|get one too!"), but in zero-sum situations it easily leads to the
|second, destructive state. So we better refine envy and make sure the
|world is positive-sum.
|
|(Hmm, what are the proper english words for these two states? In
|Swedish it is likely "avund" and "missunsamhet" - trust the Swedes to
|have subtle nuances for envy :-)
I believe your concept division lacks support in common usage.
E.g. in the list of "seven death sins"
English: pride, envy, wrath, sloth, lust, greed, and gluttony.
^^^^
Swedish: högmod, avund, vrede, lättja, vällust, girighet och frosseri.
^^^^^^