> Extropians are simply optimists. Rather than faithlessly
> thinking that things are "going to hell in a hand-basket", they
> believe that things are getting better. Not only this, but they have
> faith that, through works, things will continue to get better at an at
> least exponential rate and they hope that there will be no limit to
> this progress. As long as there is any problem anywhere, like say,
> there is still a loved one stuck in hell (if there really is such a
> thing) or the grave or whatever, they will forever work, via any good
> means available to them, having faith that some day, some way or
> another, they might find or achieve a good way to solve the problem.
> If forcing the person to be good isn't a good way to get them out of
> hell, then they simply look and strive for some other way forever
> having faith that some other possible way exists.
There's no dynamic in your optimism and, IMHO "faith" is a dirty word.
--Wax