revised
We must defend the liberty of America no matter how much American liberty we
must destroy to do so.
I think not. An open society has its costs, Americans never expect to have
freedom for
free and we vow to do whatever it takes to defend her, however defending the
Freedoms that make this Great Country the beacon of liberty for all the
world cannot be had by destroying those very
freedoms we cherish, and is a dire self inflicted wound to the American
spirit. We
shall not be intimidated into destroying those freedoms hard won with blood
and sacrifice that we solemnly vow to protect
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Sandberg" <asa@nada.kth.se>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Sen. Judd Gregg (R-New Hampshire) called for a global
prohibition on encryption
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 02:47:07PM -0700, Robert Coyote wrote:
> > how's this for a counter meme
> >
> > An open society has its costs, Americans never expect to have freedom
for
> > free, however defending the Freedoms that make this Great Country the
> > beacon of liberty for all the world cannot be had by destroying those
very
> > freedoms we cherish, and is a self inflicted wound to the American
spirit.We
> > shall not be intimidated into destroying those freedoms hard won with
blood
> > and sacrifice, that we solemnly vow to protect.
>
> Well done! As a Swede, I am culturally unable to formulate such a meme
> in a convincing American way :-)
>
> We better set it in motion *fast*, because the erosion of freedom has
> already begun:
>
> http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46852,00.html
>
> "Under the Combating Terrorism Act, prosecutors could authorize
> surveillance for 48-hour periods without a judge's approval.
>
> Warrantless surveillance appears to be limited to the addresses of
> websites visited, the names and addresses of e-mail correspondents, and
> so on, and is not intended to include the contents of communications.
> But the legislation would cover URLs, which include information such as
> what Web pages you're visiting and what terms you type in when visiting
> search engines.
>
> Circumstances that don't require court orders include an "immediate
> threat to the national security interests of the United States, (an)
> immediate threat to public health or safety or an attack on the
> integrity or availability of a protected computer." That covers most
> computer hacking offenses. "
>
> It is already approved by the Senate.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Anders Sandberg Towards Ascension!
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