On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> Party of Citizens wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> >
> > > Party of Citizens wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is it founded on truth...present and future? Does it stand for something
> > > > other than truth? If so, what?
> > >
> > > Something founded on fact is not considered religion, since religion
> > > relys on faith unsupported by any facts or testable phenomena.
> >
> > But grasshopper...I asked about TRUTH. Is that the essence of
> > Extropianism? Are Extropians true believers?
>
> We are not believers, belief hinders the critical faculties. We are
> knowers and we extrapolate and theorize based on facts that are already
> in evidence. We do not have faith or belief to the extent that
> religionists do, since we insist on testability, Occam's Razor, etc.
You are splitting hairs, grasshopper. If I know this is my hand in front
of my yinyang, then I BELIEVE it is in front of my yinyang. Show me one
prophet or other religious leader in the Bible who directed us to ignore
logical-empirical, scientific reality. Faith is followed by works because
without works, faith is dead. And works must be tested. The Bible never
said otherwise. Metaphysics doesn't detract from physics one bit.
POC
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