In a message dated 9/18/00 7:37:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
QueeneMUSE@aol.com writes:
<< In that way, and in that way only, god does exist. Not because there
really
is anything out there "shaping" things, but because for so damn long, our
existance has been infinitely shaped by the thought(s) that he/it does. And
the following mayhem or order depending on your world view.
Things would be very very different if the "god modules" weren't installed
in
us. Unimagineable to say how.
No one can say that a thought is reality, yet to deny it's existance is
lunacy. There lies the conundrum. >>
Jeepers, like ya never heard of platonism? Lots of scientists like this
concept and so do mathematicians and they wonder where the numbers come from
and how they relate. Having said that, remember we are not just working in
the happy realm of logical positivism, my friends, but that funny subset of
the universe that appears when our instruments to measure reality improve.
Many hard-assed astronomers back in the 1950's for example, did not even
consider the existence of planetary bodies circling other stars, because they
(except for a fringe), didn't consider it worthty of study. The same occured
with the notion of blackhole physics and neutron stars. Logical positivists
state that all we can meaure is what actually exists.
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