Re: God & stuff (was: Re: just me)

From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Mon Sep 18 2000 - 01:57:20 MDT


Zero Powers wrote:

> I realize that is not reason enough to claim that it must have been built by
> Jehovah (Allah, Jesus, fill in the blank). But some time back, before the
> big bang, before the first of perhaps almost infinitely many big bangs,
> there was a *first* cause.
>

Really? What if causality itself is a casualty of real understanding of
physics? What if it is just another thing that is true from a certain
point of view in rather delimited circumstances. At the least it is all
bound up in that "time" thing which is all bound up with "space" which
is actually finite and did not exist in any really meaningful way before
the Big Bang inflated it.

If causality was strict then you would get "turtles all the way down".
You couldn't have an Uncaused Cause.

> Energy is conserved, meaning it is neither created nor destroyed. Can that
> mean that energy and/or matter have *always* existed? Is that any easier to
> believe than the story that God has always existed? Not for me. Don't get
> me wrong, I no longer believe in the God I was taught about in Sunday
> school. But in light of the number and fundamentality of the unanswerable
> questions, I can't see how one could claim with any sort of certainty that
> God does not exist.

That energy and matter are conserved may also be a local space-time
conditon.

- samantha



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