In a message dated 8/18/00 9:37:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
neptune@mars.superlink.net writes:
<< My point with my comment was not everyone on this list should become a
libertarian. It was just a lament on the fact that almost everyone who has
responded to me on the Kosovo War has been for it. Not one other here has
spoken against it -- at least, not to my recollection. And at least two
people have given it their thumbs up. I find that rather strange because I
bet on any other list, on this topic, I'd find people who vary on that. >>
Because if you like freedom and order, sometimes you have to get the bad
guys. And, yes, sometimes there are really predatory criminal states.
>>Trying selling your wares in Saudi Arabia without a license. Try also doing
things like having sex with who you want to and let the law there know about
it.<<
But Saudi tends to be an intensive capitalist state-just not the capitalism
of the Scottish Enlightenment and as you have pointed out-little freedom.
Singapore has more freedoms, yet it too is tightly controlled and capitalist.
Pinochet's Chile' was capitalist, yet also repressive. My point is that the
pillar of Libertarianism-economic libertarianism, if you will, is capitalism.
And it appears as if its not axiomatically producing freedom.
>> My examples would be Minsky, Moravec, Tipler, et al.
Then follow them. No need to think or discuss. After all, they have it all
worked out. Just read and agree, right?:) <<
Hey! I could do a lot worse then those three. ;-)
>>Don't you think that there will be a transitional period, as I hint at in my
parenthetic comment? I don't want to perfect tyranny then hope it backs
down once it has even greater levels of technology at its disposal, which is
why I'm speaking out against the Kosovo War and other such interventions,
especially since the transition will probably take place here in the West.
Cheers!<<
First I feel that nanotech as envisioned by Drexler will happen decades later
then we desire and will not be gradualistic, but will become as pervasive as
the telephone became in the early 20th century-an explosion. I am more in
line with Moravec's thinking that work might disappear, not only because of
nanotech, but large-scale robotics, as homo sapien becomes stock holders
living off dividends, as the robots labor.
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