joe dees wrote:
> > The answer is not to rebel against a democratic system - it is to encourage
Why should I when it is impossible for a non-celebrity to make it as a third party candidate. The two parties have written the rules for the electoral system, which slant the field in their direction. The 'campaign finance reform' issue is nothing but a continual tug of war between which party gains more from the existing system. It is not intended to allow private citizens to be able to run for office. I am on the board of directors of my local fish and game association, and that is about as political as I would like to get.
> the more
> > rational people to get off their bitching and moaning asses and use the system
> to vote in >saner policies and politicians.
>
> First you decry that there are no acceptable Republicans anymore, then you say
> we must work through the system. If the system excludes those that represent
> your sentiments, then you have the Constitutional right to rebel against that
> government, by any means necessary. I want a system that knows inherently to
> stay away from my wallet. I shouldn't have to bribe some slimeballs to make sure
> it happens. I might as well pay taxes then.
>
> You have the constitutional right to either run yourself, and see how many voters share your sentiments enough to vote for you, or to find and support candidates who do share your sentiments.
> That is the rebellious and revolutionary means supplied by the same constitution which houses the 2nd Amendment (the overthrowing an unjust government part is in the Declaration of Independence).
Actually the preamble of the Consitution implies the same thing.
> The remarkable thing about our form of government is that it is perpetually evolving in response to the expressed will of the people. It cannot do so perfectly (utopias are ideal), but it must do so adequately (to forstall dystopia-inspired uprisings).
satisfaction with the status quo only leads to more of the same.
> Individual bullies and bully groups must be deterred from trampling on the freedoms of their fellows; this requires an executive.
Except when the executive is the one doing the trampeling. Who watches the watchers?
My big peeve with the problems in the system now is that the founding fathers had definite ideas about what the words in the Constitution meant (we can see it is so in much of their other writings), but they did not include a glossary in the document, because they were shortsighted and had no idea that the meanings of the words could change so drastically, because society was so stable then that the meanings of words had not changed since before Shakespeare.
They also did not understand the concepts of disinformation, newspeak, and doubletalk and how they could be used to undermine the Constitution.
Constitutional word a)old meaning b) new meaning or phrase "well regulated" a) trained and skilled b) restricted or prohibited by excessive laws "shall not be infringed" a) not even slightly restricted b) whatever the court decides it means "general welfare" a) stable economic development b) socialist command nationalized economy "no standing army" a) no full time professional army b) they aren't living in YOUR house without paying you "not support establishment of state religion" a) no official government religion b) nobody can even have a relgious thought on government property
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