Re: Anti-Semitism (was New X-humanist forums (was/is: Not all >H's areExtropians(was RE: >H S...)

From: Brian Manning Delaney (bdelaney@infinitefaculty.org)
Date: Fri Jun 23 2000 - 18:20:27 MDT


"Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
>
> Brian Manning Delaney wrote:
> >
> > "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
> > >
> > > Brian Manning Delaney wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not in the slightest. You're assuming one can't be anti-self --
> > > > clearly an invalid assumption (cf. "suicide," and, more
> > > > relevantly, "conversion") -- thus, the notion of the
> > > > "self-hating Jew." Small point.
> > >
> > > This is the first genuine piece of racial stereotyping
> > > I've witnessed within this discussion.
> >
> > Wha?
>
> The use of the term "self-hating Jew". That was
> totally extraneous. You could have just said:
> "Hey, just because your family's half-Jewish
> doesn't mean that you can't be anti-Semitic," and left it at that.

No. I wanted to make reference to a long-standing analysis of
anti-Semitism among Jews. Chomsky is the most well-known alleged
"self-hating Jew."

> Instead you managed to use a term that, semantically, binds together a
> particular kind of self-hatred with a particular social group;

So? this is the group we're talking about.

> and, moreover, attributed the remark you disagreed
> with to the disagreer's membership in that group,

You completely missed the point. please reread and/or rethink.
I'm too sick of this.

Wait. two quick things to look for:
1) I put it in scare-quotes
2) I didn't say "thus, YOU'RE a self-hating Jew."

-B



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