Re: Extropy and Rednecks

Terry Donaghe (tdonaghe@yahoo.com)
Mon, 18 Jan 1999 05:28:23 -0800 (PST)

---Justin Jones <frjones@swbell.net> wrote:
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> > From: Terry Donaghe <tdonaghe@yahoo.com>
> > To: extropians@extropy.com
> > Subject: Re: Extropy and Rednecks
> > Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 9:38 AM
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> > ---Harvey Newstrom <newstrom@newstaffinc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The sad thing is, I cannot disagree that this is the impression
that
> > > this list projects. This list seems to attract more political
> > > commentators than researchers, more gun enthusiasts than computer
> > > enthusiasts, and more conspiracy nuts than scientists. There is
more
> > > discussion about economic theories than on scientific theories.
> > > Arguments about vegetarians, animal rights, gun control,
homosexuals,
> > > social classes, government actions, liberals, religion, class
> > struggles
> > > should be on alt.politics instead of the extropians list.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Harvey Newstrom <newstrom@newstaffinc.com>
<http://newstaffinc.com>
> > > Author, Engineer, Entrepreneur, Consultant, Researcher, Scientist.
> >
> > I disagree. It is easy to be a scientist and a socialist, but it is
> > not possible to be an extropian and socialist. Some may disagree
but
> > read the principles that Max has written. Advocating the use of
force
> > against peaceful citizens has no place in extropianism.
> >
> Damn those evil socialists!
> What if they contribute willingly?I am basically an extropian and
also a
> socialist.
>

I don't have a problem with socialists who are willing to allow socialism to happen voluntarily. I think that's fine and dandy (though it won't work), but I what I have a problem with, and what I think is exclusive of extropianism is advocating the use of force against a peaceful population. That's what socialist governments do. If you advocate a socialist government then you advocate the use of violence against peaceful people.

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