> > So, Mr. "Macht macht recht"
>
> You joke about it, but actually "might makes right" can be
> taken quite literally. Rights without might are paper tigers.
An argument I have found effective in communicating this point: During the cold war, the USSR constitution included a guarantee of free speech to all citizens, just as the US constitution does. Why then was reality such that Americans had moderately free speech and Soviets did not? Because in the US, the people with the guns (cops, federal agencies, military, and many citizens) /believed/ in a greater level of free speech than did the Soviets (though still not very free by some measures).
It's good to use reason and rhetoric to express opinions about what rights should and shouldn't exist; but until you convince the people in power, they will not exist in reality.
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