RE: Is vs. Ought (was: A Physicist Experiments With CulturalStudies)

From: Leonardo Gonzalez (magos@extropian.net)
Date: Thu Nov 18 1999 - 22:47:30 MST


> Or in much simpler terms, and leaving out the objective morality: If
> you *want* something, then you want a part of the Universe to change.
> Well, what you want is also a part of the Universe, and you can want to
> change what you want.
> --
> sentience@pobox.com Eliezer S. Yudkowsky

Sounds like what Frankfurt wrote about: first-order desires and second-order
desires. First-order desires are those we simply/immediately have.
Second-order desires refer to other desires.

This necessitates self-awareness and introspection. It is the ability to
have second-order desires that Frankfurt proposes as the definition for a
"person" (as opposed to a "human"), labeling those who cannot as "wantons".

It seems to me that this is a similar problem to that addressed by
second-order cybernetics. Having no knowledge of the field, however, it's
just a speculation... Anyone with more info care to comment?

Thanks,

Leonardo



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