Longevity & Population [was Re: Wertheim on extropians]

From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@www.aeiveos.com)
Date: Fri Sep 17 1999 - 09:03:45 MDT


On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 Spudboy100@aol.com wrote:

> Lets factor in the material in the Kuiper Belt and the Oort Cloud
> also-could change the picture.

The mass estimates I used included the best estimates for those.

> Who's to say that "new" material may not be available
> in higher physical dimensions as described by Rudy Rucker and Clifford
> Pickover? More reasonably, in Saucer Wisdom, Professor Rucker presented his
> 'ala' device which transmutes matter into any form desired. We'll have a
> hundred Petatons of Carbon-60 by next wednesday, mister!

NMP!!!

Using normal physics, however, you can breed H & He into structural
materials but it takes a long time. I've wondered if we still see
stars because they happen to be the best containers for breeding
heavier elements.

>
> While I'm raving; why not postulate new material around other stars that are
> A or B class stars. (if I vaguely remember the Hertzsprung-Russell diagrams)
> and use em' for Dyson shells-no C.O.D.'s please?
>
O, B & A stars are fine for rapidly breeding heavy materials, and
good if you need a lot of energy for computation, but you get it for
a much shorter time (millions rather than billions of years). There
appear to only be 2 ways to do this -- (a) beam your information
over to the new D.S. just before your star blows up/goes out; (b)
navigate your star into a close collision with another star and
deconstruct & reconstruct your D.S. around the new star. It isn't
clear which is more efficient.

> -Spud p.s. The dead Tern tied to my head says "Nevermore" perhaps a
> cryogenic Tern would suffice?
>
Kind of tough on the teeth, I'd presume.

R.



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