Fw: The IETF+Censored list

From: eugene.leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de
Date: Wed Sep 01 1999 - 21:01:18 MDT


Ways of dealing with noise. Harald actually implemented the scheme
we've been discussing about.

From: "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <frystyk@microsoft.com>

I love Harald's subtle sense of diplomacy!

Henrik Frystyk Nielsen,
mailto:frystyk@microsoft.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <hta@dokka.maxware.no>
To: <ietf@ietf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 16:15
Subject: FAQ: The IETF+Censored list

                         The IETF+Censored mailing list

    At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
    with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
    would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
    place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
    from imposing any censorship policy on the IETF@ietf.org list.

    To give people an alternative, there is a list called
    "ietf+censored@alvestrand.no".

    This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
    open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
    messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
    discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
    the IETF list are not forwarded.

    Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
      * Well known troublemakers
      * Well known crosspostings
      * Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
      * Some ways to say "unsubscribe"

    To join the list, [1]send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
    message to ietf+censored-request@alvestrand.no (the URL here is an RFC
    2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).

    For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
    ietf+censored-rejects@alvestrand.no - subscribe in the same fashion,
    by [2]mail to ietf+censored-rejects-request@alvestrand.no

    By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
    [3]http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters

    Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
    perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
    [4]posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).

    This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
    posted monthly in text form to ietf@ietf.org
      _________________________________________________________________

    Harald Tveit Alvestrand [5]< Harald@Alvestrand.no>

 References

    1. mailto:ietf+censored-request@alvestrand.no?body=subscribe
    2. mailto:ietf+censored-rejects-request@alvestrand.no?body=subscribe
    3. http://www.alvestrand.no/cgi-bin/hta/ietf+censored-filters
    4. http://www.alvestrand.no/posting-counts.html
    5. mailto:harald@alvestrand.no



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