From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (sentience@pobox.com)
Date: Thu Jul 29 1999 - 04:08:42 MDT
Paul Hughes wrote:
>
> "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
>
> > Paul Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > > **Since no one has actually built or designed a theoretical human-level AI, how can
> > > anyone possibly claim what it takes to build one? This seems completely absurd
> > > to the point of self-contradiction! As so many are fond of saying around here -
> > > extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
> >
> > Hello-oo-o? http://pobox.com/~sentience/AI_design.temp.html?
>
> Read it, re-read it, has potential, been there, done that. A design is
> just a design. The real question is - will it work? You don't know that,
> you can't prove it, because until it actually *is* working, you have
> no proof. At this point it's nothing more than a self-consistent piece
> of computational and logical poetry. Interesting, original, fun to read,
> but utterly useless until it can actually be applied to *do* something.
We weren't talking about usefulness. You said that since nobody had
designed an AI, nobody knows what it'll take to build one. I designed
an AI. I have some kind of vague idea of what it'll take to build it.
That's all I'm trying to say. My estimate may be wrong, but there's
nothing absurd "to the point of self-contradiction" about my making one.
Or are you seriously suggesting that I should try to write and run the
entire AI before even *trying* to estimate the hardware required? The
quantity and architecture of hardware *available* is a major factor in
software design. Yes, we'll have a much better idea of what it takes to
run an AI after the first version fails - but I still have to guess,
now, with what I know now.
BTW, my estimate is 1e17 ops/sec on CPU-like architectures.
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