From: Harvey Newstrom (newstrom@newstaffinc.com)
Date: Fri Jul 02 1999 - 11:41:41 MDT
It's cool to see someone else on this list that does lucid dreaming. I do
this, but it's not wide-spread as far as I know. I have had major periods
of overwork where I literally worked full time except for sleep. By
controlling my dreams and simulating an hour on the beach or something, I
woke up more refreshed and ready to work again. When I don't dream (or more
accurately, when I don't remember dreaming) it seems like I just went to bed
and its time to go to work again, and I'm not ready to go back to work.
I also have performed real design work in dreams. During the above week of
hell, I have gone to sleep, designed a solution to problems, and woke up
ready to implement the design the next morning. I presented the design
idea, and actually billed time for the design work.
This is not always reliable, however. Sometimes you don't dream or don't
become lucid while dreaming. Sometimes you don't maintain full lucidity.
You dream that you came up with a good design, and you wake up and realize
that it doesn't make sense. Sometimes dreams get weird and seem reasonable
until you wake up. Usually the consciousness achieved in lucid dreaming
prevents the random dream-generators from kicking in, but occasionally there
is some overlap where the lucid dream still has some fictional elements
thrown in.
For those who don't know what we're talking about: Lucid dreaming is when
you realize that you are dreaming. You thereby become conscious inside your
dream. Once you realize its a dream, you can control it by visualizing what
you want to see, and the dream-generating facilities of the subconscious
take over and create what you visualized. Basically, it is a
super-realistic holodeck. Anything you can imagine seems to be real. You
get full sensory feedback, so you can do long division on paper, because you
see the paper and the writing holds constant and seems real. You can think
logically and generate a design or a check list in your head, and when you
wake up you have accomplished real work/planning while sleeping.
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