Re: Ban on GUN posts RE: Greg Burch: Time to Act

From: Mark Phillips (clay8@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 18 1999 - 16:05:54 MDT


Well, here we go with normative-theoretic basics: Who's the actual
sponsor/owner of this chat/mail list. Who-so-ever-the-hell it is, don't
THEY have the (moral, and de facto) RIGHT to censor, desubscribe, or
whatever? Presumably, most of us are, ultimately, *guests* of the said
sponsor/owner (again, regardless of who the hell said sponsor/owner happens
to be [EXI, Max More personally, or a secret cabal consisting of FM2020,
RAW, & Ignatz the Anarchist Mouse]). Can a sponsor/owner kick a guest out,
more-or-less "arbitrarily?" Well, sure. S/He might not "ought" to do so,
it may be SUBerogatory for hir to do so, but S/He rightfully CAN do
so---it's permissible in the important sense that it is correlatively
IMpermissible for anyone else to coercively interfere with hir doing so. Or
am I TOTALLY screwed-up here?

Sure, we are--and damn well should be--a COMMUNITY, indeed, perhaps almost
like a family, but let's not forget that someone or some organization is the
proprietor, who ultimately has say-so.

I like dialog...dialectic. I think you, Joe, and Mike and Mark and Brian,
and Billy, et al were doin' FINE; we were, at least to SOME extent, honing
in on a (at least partial) reconciliation of the opposing sides (not
counting and notwithstanding the personal invective, [alleged] lies,
[alleged] personal defamations etc.--I'm talkin' about the evolution of the
debated concepts, ideas, protocols, etc.) I think we really do need such
systematic dialog/dialectic (WITHfrickinOUT personal invective b.s.)....

*BUT* I also feel(felt) that the g-word megathread(s) WERE spiralling into
as much apolectic invective bullcrap as effective, productive dialectic, and
many (apparently most) of the rest of the--ah-hem--COMMUNITY felt likewise.
So they appealled to Greg to (temporarily) quash it. Was I disappointed?
Well, yeah, a teeeeny bit, because I thought (still think) the main
protagonists were--nonetheless!!--maikin some good philosophic
(intersubjective, dialectical, reflective-equilibrating) PROfrickinGRESS.

But Greg chose to act in his capacity, and......

Anyway, Joe, Mike, et al whaddaya think?? Am right here, full o' crap here
or what??

I always love your stuff, Joe. Be cool, bro.

Ciao

MCP

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