Re: Conscious of the hard problem

From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (sentience@pobox.com)
Date: Fri Jun 25 1999 - 14:06:46 MDT


David Blenkinsop wrote:
>
> "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
> >
> > I happen to believe that time travel is explicitly permitted by General
> > Relativity, which forbids a single correct direction of time just as
> > Special Relativity forbids an "ether" or single correct reference frame.
>
> Notice that even if this radical idea should happen to work out for
> real, it doesn't remove the need for causality as such. For instance,
> the whole point of getting multiple timelines involved in this is to
> open up the "closed" time loops, so that the causal effects extend
> forward into another history, instead of actually going around in
> circles.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. (Speaking about the Scientific-American
multiple-timelines idea, not necessarily to you personally.) If going
into the future doesn't send me into a different timeline, neither will
going into the past. There is no "temporal ether", no single direction
of time, and the rules have to be the same in both directions.
Causality *is* circular.

Using the term "causality" to refer to what I would call
"monodirectional causality" doesn't mean that the laws of physics agree
with you. Nor does a deliberately narrow definition of "causality" mean
that all order and causality get tossed out the window if the definition
turns out to be wrong.

Grandfather paradoxes. Deal.

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