META: New horizons for the Extropians list

From: Max More (max@maxmore.com)
Date: Thu Jun 17 1999 - 00:14:10 MDT


To follow on from my recent message asking this community to employ its
intelligence and creativity to improving the list, here are some additional
thoughts:

I continue to like the NodeNet idea, implemented as a web-based set of
boards.. I also like Robin's Hanson's urging of posting of well-developed
papers and essays. We used to have an ExI-Essay list for this purpose,
which perhaps should be revived.

While we (that is a small handful of ExI officers *and* any all of your
willing to step up and help) work towards implementing a web-based NodeNet
structure, or similar, here's a possibility:

Shut down <extropians@extropy.org> while we reevaluate its function. I do
not feel comfortable having people see it as ExI's main list. It does not
represent the quality and civility that I desire for ExI. Instead, an
immediate replacement might be <extropians-chat@extropy.org> where anything
goes (other than libel, of course). This would, at first, amount to little
more than a change in name, but would move in the right direction.

Following that, to move towards the NodeNet idea of focused forums -- even
before we determine whether a web-based implementation is feasible for us
-- we may want to create a substantial "portfolio" of topic-specific lists
with clear rules. The g-topic will be perfectly appropriate on a list
devoted to political freedom, for example.

You could help with the above idea by suggesting possible ontologies for
the set of focused lists. This is not a simple matter. Should there be a
single list for all discussions of technologies, or divide this into nano,
AI, computer tech, biotech, etc. (but drawing those distinctions will
sometimes be difficult). Aside from technology/technologies, there might be
a list on alernative social and economic systems, one on philosophical
issues, or several that divide these into sub-topics.

Again, I think this would work best with a web interface that lets you view
any of the forums you choose, in order to maintain a sense of community,
along with essays and articles to stimulate list discussions. But we could
begin simply by starting and expanding on regular email lists. My earliest
suggestion for what I would like to see happen is at:

http://www.extropy.com/~exi/exponent/1999/031999.htm

I share Harvey's frustration at lack of progress. I won't rehash the
various reasons for this. I will just note two things: All the time I have
to Exi right now is devoted to a major, tanglble project -- Extro 4: The
Biotech Futures Conference. I'm disappointed to hear little comment on
this. If we can secure funding from foundations, I would to follow up on
the event with a book, or web-published proceedings, or set of policy
and/or educational papers But more on that another time.

As always, I continue to welcome suggestions for changing the status quo.
Please work with us, not against us.

Onward!

Max

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Max More, Ph.D.
<max@maxmore.com> or <more@extropy.org>

http://www.maxmore.com

Implications of Advanced Technologies
President, Extropy Institute: http://www.extropy.org
EXTRO 4 Conference: Biotech Futures. See http://www.extropy.org/ex4/e4main.htm
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