From: Joe E. Dees (joedees@bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue Jun 08 1999 - 17:38:09 MDT
From: QueeneMUSE@aol.com
Date sent: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:23:11 EDT
Subject: Re: Re: GUNS: Fear of Guns Vs. Fear of No Guns
To: extropians@extropy.com
Send reply to: extropians@extropy.com
>
> In a message dated 6/8/99 5:27:24 AM, you wrote:
>
> >
> >If you can't show any intellectual integrity or honesty, please stop
> debating.
> >For that matter,
> >where are all the manslaughters???? If you don't include those important
> deaths,
> >what is the
> >purpose of your statistics unless they are outright lies? A homicide is not
> a murder,
> >and a
>
>
> Hold on a sec. YOU are the one who is saying that murder and crime is where
> these guns are going, not whoever that was..
>
96 % of the homicides committed in 1995 in the US were murders;
that is they were both intentional killings and were ruled
unjustifiable.
>
> then, to agitate, you say they want to put them in hands of people who do
> the crimes. That's real close to accusing them of supporting murder. Stick to
> those statistics about murder, then.
>
They refuse to support the removal of guns from the possession of
those most likely to commit murder. That is backhanded support.
>
> I think most people only want to fight, including you.
> Accidents are caused by yahoos like me and my plaid trash ancestors,
> irresponsible people who need training, not banning. If you take them away
> instead of educating them, people will by them illegally and stash them.
> hey look how effective drug bans are.
>
Guns are a lot harder to hide on one's person than drugs (since
they are metal-detectable and of at least a certain size), are
glaringly obvious when being used, and are retained on one's
person after use. It is illegal to go around injecting people with
poisons, too.
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