From: Sayke@aol.com
Date: Sat May 29 1999 - 16:51:06 MDT
In a message dated 5/29/99 2:23:23 PM PST, joedees@bellsouth.net writes:
> > In a message dated 5/28/99 2:05:02 PM PST, Josh.Clingenpeel@wwu.edu:
> >
> > > I'm actually curious as to where you get your information. If
someone has
> > > the ability to use violent force, they are going to be less violent?
I
> > > don't see how this is logical.
> >
> > hehe hmmm... so whaddya think of martial artists? are we more likely
> > to be violent? how does that fit in to this? and whats the diff between
an
> > average martial artist and an average guy with a gun?
> >
> Hmmm...howzabout the ability to kill a dozen people at a hundred
> yards in ten seconds (supposing black-beltish marksmanship
> skills)?
yup, theres a diff there; a matter of scale. but how many of these
black-beltish marksmen do we have killing innocents? very very few. thats my
point.
> > i think the main diff is education. many martial artists, like many
> > legal gun owners, know what their doing, and how to do it, and what it
does,
> > and what the reprocussions of using their violence are. they are not
> > ignorant about their ability for violence. ergo, they are more likely to
be
> > intellegent in their use of violence... and i think that makes all the
> > difference.
> >
> If they're responsible, I have no problem with them keeping and
> bearing, but if they have been legitimately identified as
> irresponsible, they should have to relinquish.
i have no problem with that, in theory... but shit. slopes are
slippery, and making laws forcing the goons to relinquish their weapons
requires, well, making laws, which means trusting politicians to understand
the fine ethical line that i think is being treaded here... basicly, i agree
with your goals but not your methods; i think ole crocker & lorray's approach
would be, functionally, the lonterm lesser of two evils.
"i believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the
people by gradual and silent enroachments of those in power than by violent
and sudden usurpations." -- james madison
sayke
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