RE: Liberty vs. Extropy

From: Billy Brown (bbrown@conemsco.com)
Date: Mon May 24 1999 - 10:47:55 MDT


Raymond G. Van De Walker wrote:
> Why I am not an anarcho-syndicalist libertarian:
> I do not know of a solution to the free-rider problem of military
> protection. This seems like the central unsolved problem of
> anarcho-syndicalist libertarians: since they cannot tax, they cannot
> raise enough military force to defend against aggressive taxing
> governments. By the way, if anyone knows of a solution, I'd
> like to hear it.

That is one of the two fundamental barriers I see in the way of
government-free society. I've never seen a good solution to the problem,
and I'm pretty sure that there isn't one yet - we're going to need some kind
of major innovation to deal with it.

The other fundamental barrier I see is the problem of restraining the use of
force in the anarchist society. The problem is that market mechanisms are
the only available means for restraining violence in an anarchy, but these
mechanisms do not function properly unless the use of force is already
constrained. We thus have the problem of setting up a system that
establishes its own preconditions, which is a very difficult proposition.

> The U.S. was the real libertarian revolution, and we're living it. It
> could be improved, as David Friedman points out, but we already have many
> of the liberties that are possible in a libertarian society.

We've got some of the 'low-hanging fruit', but we are still far short of
the point of diminishing returns. A government consisting solely of a
criminal justice system, a system of civil law, and state and war
departments, would allow substantially more freedom than our current system
without posing any real practical difficulties.

Modern America is less oppressed than the rest of the world, but it still
offers its citizens rather limited freedom. We don't even have the freedoms
explicitly spelled out in the Bill of Rights, let alone the vast body of
freedom implied by the doctrine of enumerated powers.

> The central weakness of libertarian philosophy is that it gives only
> negative advice about the nature of a good life: e.g. Don't initiate
> force, Minimize interference in other people's activities. It lacks
> advice about what's good.

Well, yes. OTOH, that is only a weakness if you are looking for a complete
ethical system. As a purely political philosophy this is actually a
strength - it means that anyone who recognizes individual rights and human
fallibility can take part in the system, regardless of the details of their
personal ethics.

If we try to build a unified body of thought that covers everything from
personal ethics to epistemology to political theory, we will inevitably end
up with a system that only a small group of people will be willing to adopt.
The result is a political impotence that allows the forces of collectivism
to have their way unopposed. By creating a political philosophy that does
not rely on any one specific view of these other issues, we make it much
more feasible for individualists of many different stripes to cooperate in
the defense of liberty.

> If this analysis is right, freedom is not as limiting for Extropians as
> other resources. I at least, already have all the freedom I can use,
> (except I wish for less taxes) and the very existence of this mailing
> list is evidence of the same for its readers. If I could buy a
> space-ship, I could leave tomorrow. I _am_ free to pursue longevity
> techniques, and perform computer research.

Actually, it would be illegal for you to build or operate a spacecraft - you
need a few tens of thousands of pages worth of permits and paperwork before
you'll be allowed to play with toys like that. Research is subject to
relatively light regulation, but actually using the fruits of that research
is another matter.

Billy Brown, MCSE+I
bbrown@conemsco.com



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