From: Ian Goddard (Ian@Goddard.net)
Date: Sat Mar 27 1999 - 01:46:31 MST
Michael S. Lorrey <mike@lorrey.com> wrote:
>Too bad Ian Goddard isn't focusing his energies on this
>situation. I think he'd find much more real evidence.
IAN: Mike, in light of the fact that you were only
able to support the CIA's explanation of eyewitness
accounts with false claims about the content of the
CIA video, your implying that my case suffers an
evidence shortfall is pretty funny... or is it sad?
As per your comparing Waco and FL800: your faith
in the FBI -- the gang that committed premeditated
mass murder in Waco (as revealed in the Govt's own
FLIR video) -- is oddly strong in the FL800 case,
where the FBI currently conceals the identities
of Navy vessels under the Privacy Act, and has
both lost and continues to conceal most of the
physical evidence and data, including witness
accounts of a rocket rising from the surface.
(a recent Village Voice article covers a few examples:
http://www.villagevoice.com/features/9908/davey.shtml)
Who could trust the mass murders of Waco as they
conceal evidence in yet another case with over 100
witnesses clearly describing a surface-to-air anti-
aircraft engagement sourced to the very area that
FBI agent James Kallstrom admits there were "Navy
vessels that were on classified maneuvers"? I sure
can't. (http://www.erols.com/igoddard/irvine.htm)
Eyewitnesses, including Navy vets, also saw Navy
ships in that area (here's the account of 2 Navy-
ship witnesses: http://twa800.com/perry.htm).
Here are two eyewitness accounts of the upward-
shooting flare given within a day of the crash.
On the PBS NewsHour (7/18/96), Cecelia Penney said:
"Well, we were sitting on my father-in-law's boat,
and all of a sudden my husband pointed to the sky
and said, "Look! Somebody shot up a flare." And we
all looked up, and a couple of seconds later, we
just saw this burst of flames, and it separated."
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/transportation/july96/twa1_7-18.html
Here's the eyewitness account of Tom Kennedy
from ABC News Nightline given less than three
hours after the crash (7/17/96) of Flight 800:
"And I was pulling my boat back in and I was tying
it up and the guy next to me was tying his up and
we were just talking and the guy said, "Hay look
at that flare," and I turned around and looked at
the flare, and I'm like "Wow, someone must have had
some trouble in the bay," and no sooner had I said
that than the thing just exploded and it looked like
a Christmas tree of fire going down to the water."
(see: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/forgot01.htm)
That the "flare" he saw was rising up
is clearly indicated by the association
of its source with someone "in the bay."
In the first case, the witness's husband
said "Look! Somebody shot up a flare."
23 more eyewitness accounts are found here:
http://www.erols.com/igoddard/witness.htm
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