From: Billy Brown (bbrown@conemsco.com)
Date: Fri Mar 26 1999 - 13:28:13 MST
Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote:
> Well, we aren't.
OK. That's what I thought.
> I think it's even worse than that; I don't think our neurons are doing
> anything as inefficient as an emulation layer. I think the brain's
> low-level algorithms will look like Vinge's description of a skrode -
> unchunkable without a specialized domdule. Like trying to understand
> the "spirit" of a piece of art by examining it pixel by
> pixel, only more so..
Yeah. Its hard enough to figure out what a neural net with a few hundred
neurons is doing. I can't imagine an individual human getting anywhere on a
whole brain, or even a significant subsystem.
> But your logic about having lots of company doesn't necessarily hold.
> My computer is faster than it has RAM - and, relative to computers, the
> human brain uses a *lot* more RAM relative to processing power. (Also,
> don't forget that uploading requires incredibly sophisticated
> nanotechnology.) So once uploaded successfully, and even before any
> functional improvements were made, the first upload would be running at
> days per second, or even years per second.
I'm not especially afraid of a human who runs faster than real time. It
doesn't make him smarter, and if he tries to crank up the speed too much
he'll go nuts from sensory deprivation and/or social isolation (or get lost
in VR, if you go that route). It may make him able to do the work of ten
normal humans, or even a hundred, but that isn't enough to make him
dangerous to the human race as a whole.
That being the case, I'd expect the number of uploads to be fairly large
before they can get an effective IE cycle going.
Billy Brown, MCSE+I
bbrown@conemsco.com
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