Re: Is There A Need for Transhuman Spirituality?

From: ASpidle@aol.com
Date: Thu Feb 25 1999 - 08:30:35 MST


In a message dated 99-02-25 05:11:30 EST, you write:

<<
 Thanks Natasha for having the courage to bring up a topic that usually
generates
 an allergic reaction for so many in this community. I think such reactions
are
 either due to lack of experience in these areas or mistaking the map for the
 territory.
 
 
 In regards to a theology of gods or Gods, they are not entirely without use.
If
 I find that a belief in a particular God or set of gods is useful to my
overall
 development, how is this a bad thing? Internally believing in anything "as
if
 true" has its uses, no matter how absurd the belief. The question becomes,
is
 this belief helping me to increase my own personal extropy or hinder it? In
the
 past I found that oscillating between fervent belief and disbelief was a
useful
 exercise in finding the limits of belief and their effects on my own brain.
For
 those who haven't done this, I highly recommend this metabelief exercise -
 especially those who have remained within one or two highly confined belief
 systems - athiest/theist or otherwise.
 
 I completely agree that the 'New Age' renaissance was fabulous during its
 beginnings. It had its roots primarily in Eastern historical methods of
 self-development and self-discovery where all things are possible and human
 potential can be developed without end.
 
 
 Yes again. My current mix of things is a cross between practical psychology
and
 applied theology - I plan on being a god myself one day.
  
 Yes. As our love, compassion, and achieving bliss in oneself and stimulating
it
 in others.
  
 As do I. Who said the path to godhood meant becoming stupid morons? :-)
  
 The strong tendency within this community to criticize first and seek out
 kindredness later has always bothered me. On the other hand, it's a
refreshing
 change from the blind faith and stupidity rampant almost everywhere else we
 turn. Perhaps it's that fact, that drives the current dichotomizing tendency
to
 be so critical when we could all be such good friends under other
circumstances.
 
 Yes, I have tried on numerous occasions, both directly and obliquely, to
point
 out that "synergy" as you call it. I've always liked Anders ability to play
all
 sides of the transhumanist fence. He can be the most ruthlessly logical
person
 at times, yet I've seen him say the most poetic and amazing things that pin
all
 these "softer" issues right on the head.
  
 I couldn't have summed up my own sentiments about the last 6 months of my
life
 better than that. :-)
 
 Paul Hughes >>

Hurray for Paul and Natasha!!

Intellectual accomplishment need not dehumanize us. Keep it up, guys.

 I plan on being a god myself one day. also.

Adrian Spidle



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