From: Ian Goddard (Ian@Goddard.net)
Date: Tue Feb 16 1999 - 00:26:17 MST
At 05:17 PM 2/16/99 +1100, Time Bates falsely claimed:
>>Anyway, the point is that the jet shot up like
>>you throw a ball up, and reached a peak, would be
>>at rest there, and then fell. That's the CIA scenario.
>
>I think their movie shows the plane exploding downward like a rocket. In
>other words it didn't reach appogee and turnover like an albatross, it
>was being thrust violently upwards under full throttle, suffered an
>alteration in attitude due to its own fuel exploding and then rapidly
>accelerated towrad the earth, continuing some thrust and much burn.
>
>Also, it is quite inappropriate to translate their about x seconds and
>"about a mile" 6
>o'clock news commentary into a calculus of precise feet and seconds.
IAN: You obviously havn't listend to the
video long enough to hear exactly this:
"Just after the aircraft exploded it pitched up abruptly and climbed
several thousand feet from its last reported altitude of about 13,800 feet
to a maximum altitude of about 17,000 feet. ...Shortly after Flight 800
reached the peak of its accent, about 20 seconds after it exploded, a
fireball erupted from the aircraft. ..."
[IAN: Note, as you mentioned, there is an
explosion at the apex in the CIA scenario,
but fuel sprayed out by the jet (from which
wing, both were on? center tank only about
a 100 or so gallons already exploded) would
have fallen behind the climbing jet, and if
that exploded, the 60 psi pressure wave
(rapidly falling off) would push UP
from below the noseless fuselage.
If the fuel source was on board, its
force would be distributed isotropically,
and thus not pushing down more than up,
but since fuel tanks are low to the
fuselage, could tend to push up more.]
Back to CIA video:
"About 7 seconds after the left wing detached, and 49 seconds
after the initial explosion, the burning debris hit the water."
IAN: 20 second up (13800 to 17000) and
29 seconds down to 0 (since 49 - 20 = 29).
There you go, every number I stated is in
there. I think you owe me an apology for
claiming that I irresponsibly altered
wasn't! You then proceed to draw other
erroneous conclusions therefrom such as
that which adorns the subject line above.
It stands without refutation that the Govt
said a jet at the apex of a climb (it falls
after a climb WHEN it reaches zero velocity)
fell from 17,000 to 0 in 29 seconds, about
25% faster that physical law allows.
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