From: Eugene Leitl (eugene.leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de)
Date: Mon Dec 14 1998 - 14:56:08 MST
Terry Donaghe writes:
> I think that this will all become a moot point once we have mature
> nanotechnology (MT). If MT can provide food, clothing, and shelter
> cheaply enough for the world's population that it can be given away
> for free, and if MT can eliminate manual labor, will there even be a
> point in having a government?
Agree absolutely. In fact, I don't see any point in at all having
people if we have MNT. In case I'd lay my hands on an assembler, and
could spend quite a few years in a log cabin alone (but with full
connectivity, please), I'm very willing to demonstrate. (Of course
a team of people two decades from now could accomplish a lot in a
single month, so I won't need to play hermit to act upon my promise,
after all).
I admit to have a deep level of discomfort when confronted with the
style of thinking such as yours, or, for instance, JoSH's neat visions
about a 5 t spacecraft, fuel included, capable of delivering 4 people
to LEO.
You see, a technology which can do a lot of funky things like that
without even trying hard will not be so surgically selective. In the
hands of ruthless people ('gene here, for instance) you'll see a lot
of new unexpected uses crop up rapidly, wave after wave. Of course,
with MNT the implementation phase is only hours away from the design
phase (and simulation even being instanteously interactive). So these
waves could very well be physically visible. Each wave would mount upon wave.
I'm a lousy coder, but a lot of what I can't do is limited by the
kind of computational resources I have at my disposal. I can think
of detailed plans for a desktop hardware giving me a factor of at
least a billion over the machine I now sit in front of (in fact the
thing is scalable many orders of magnitude upward, since being
embarrasingly parallel). I think I could manage such hardware
after a year or two. I know many people who would be able to become
productive much sooner. If I had such hardware at my disposal, I'd
spend the bulk of my wake hours designing a robust GA fit for
molecular design purposes and creating boundary conditions for
SI emergence. I could think about 10 kPeople world-wide
would have similiar core motivations, with surely several 100
kPeople being busy at the tangents of the task, and hang all those
still sticking to panem et circenses. I can't predict the kinetics
of this assembly, of course, but intuitively, it would seem very
Very VERY rapid. Unless you have means of bring the boot down on
these people simultaneously (if they all possess assemblers, seems
like a very bad idea indeed), you can't prevent progress from
happening. Indeed keeping VERY rapid progress from happening.
Mayest thou live in interesting times.
ciao,
'gene
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