From: Terry Donaghe (tdonaghe@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Dec 14 1998 - 10:45:03 MST
---"Joe E. Dees" <jdees0@students.uwf.edu> wrote:
>
> Date sent: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:46:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Terry Donaghe <tdonaghe@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: The Education Function
> To: extropians@extropy.com
> Send reply to: extropians@extropy.com
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---"Joe E. Dees" <jdees0@students.uwf.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > Date sent: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:40:36 -0500
> > > From: Michael Lorrey <mike@lorrey.com>
> > > Organization: Mikeysoft
> > > To: extropians@extropy.com
> > > Subject: Re: The Education Function
> > > Send reply to: extropians@extropy.com
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe E. Dees wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: EvMick@aol.com
> > > > > Date sent: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 21:13:13 EST
> > > > > To: extropians@extropy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: The Education Function
> > > > > Send reply to: extropians@extropy.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 12/11/98 2:36:12 PM Central Standard
Time,
> > > > > > jdees0@students.uwf.edu writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "We" = those who cared enough to vote, obviously. Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think I'm insulted....(not sure)>
> > > > > > Consider the meme.>
> > > > > > "If you don't vote ...you don't care"...>
> > > > > > However...there are no real choices. A Republican votes
just
> > like a Democrat
> > > > > > after being elected (with various and sundry excuses as to
why).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So...to vote is to validate the system. NOT voting does
not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Not to vote is to forego one possibility of affecting upon the
> > system.
> > > > > All our political systems are composed of people, some
better than
> > > > > others. No choice is perfect, but to not choose is passive,
> > > > > vegetative and "victimicious."
> > > >
> > > > Well, until there is a place on the ballot where I can vote NO
on
> > every candidate,
> > > > then my disenfranchisement is not voluntary, but
institutionalised
> > and coerced.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Lorrey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Well, by not voting, I guess you voluntarily do that already.
Joe
> > >
> > >
> > No... when the government restricts us to two candidates, both of
whom
> > supply an identical result (more powerful government, higher taxes,
> > more oppression) we get the same result regardless of how we vote.
> > Therefore, the choice is FORCED upon us because of the restrictions
> > against competing parties.
> > ==
>
> I'm in favor of a truly multiparty system; but when the hurricane
> comes, how is the "none of the above" you wanna vote for gonna co-
> ordinate relief efforts? Oh, yeah, I forgot; you're a "rugged
> individualist" who can survive sleeping in mud and eating the
> neighbors' dogs (hehe)... Joe
I'm sorry... I don't recall saying that I want to always vote for
"none of the above"... Of course, I'd rather there not to be a
government to vote for in the first place, but barring that I'd prefer
to vote for individuals who would be willing to reduce the size of
government and increase the power of individuals.
Currently our government does all it can to prohibit us from voting
for such people. The two "approved" parties are both uninterested in
limiting government. Therefore, I stand on the fact that not voting
is equivalent to voting.
==
Terry Donaghe: terry@donaghe.com
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