From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Sat Dec 12 1998 - 14:13:06 MST
xebec <xebec@home.com> writes:
> Anyway... It has occured to me that in all of this "technological
> advancement" that we have already (here in 1998), when it
> comes to the science of the mind (psychology, and psychiatry), we have
> no REAL CLUE of what levels of what chemicals
> are supposed to be present in our brain.
Hmm? Do we really not have any clues? Obviously there are huge gaps of
knowledge (especially frustrating to computational neuroscientists
like me who need the data to build models) but I wouldn't really say
we don't know anything about the levels. There are plenty of studies
in the distributions of various synapses and receptors, and we know
the sizes of synaptic release of various neurotransmittors. For the
more common transmittors like glutamate and GABA we could definitely
derive good estimates, and I guess we at least know some things about
the amounts of dopamine, serotonin and noradrenaline.
Remember that we can do microdialysis studies inside living brains to
really find the concentrations of chemicals at certain sites.
> The reason I find this "depressing" is because basically, the way
> our brain (seems to) work is that all of your cells operate
> in a "logical" manner -- that is, neurons communicate back and forth and
> logically decide what is the next course of action based
> upon a series of algortythms and timing. Of course, cell efficiency,
> and the health of the cell can alter these things, which could
> give us different actions than otherwise "predicted" by the brain -->
> the REAL modifier of behavior is what chemicals that
> have been released into our brain and are floating through the cells.
> THIS is what effects the "efficiency" of cells, and alters the
> likely course that course that they decide to take..
Cells do not operate in a logical manner, essentially they just sum
the synaptic inputs and fire if the result goes over a certain
threshold. This is then modulated in a complex way by chemicals and
past activity. All the logical decisions are made by *networks* of
cells, and neuromodulators certainly change the way they act.
> If we cannot determine what are NORMAL levels or what we can change
> to change our emotions, then theoretically, the
> more intelligent someone is, the more trouble they can run into when
> something goes wrong.
Depends on if their "intelligence" includes emotional intelligence,
the ability to manage and regulate their own emotions. After all, we
don't need to know the serotonine levels of our brains in order to
change our own mood by (say) positivr thinking or visualization.
Personally I disagree with the view that more intelligen people have
higher ups and downs - it smacks of the romantic notion of the
tormented genius. Psychological studies seem to suggest that gifted
people tends to be more social and have fewer psychological problems
than normal people.
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