From: Paul Hughes (planetp@aci.net)
Date: Mon Nov 30 1998 - 22:41:24 MST
John Clark wrote:
> Charlie Stross <charlie@antipope.org>
>
>
> >If the UK had retained hanging, something like 50-100 innocent
> >people would have been executed over the past 30 years
>
> I don't see how you figure that, certainly your previous statement has
> nothing to do with it.
John, can you explain to me why 1/3 of all convicted rapist turned out to be
innocent (and subsequently released), when DNA evidence became available to
acquit them? I'd say that is an astounding figure - especially considering that
the majority of victims in those cases are still alive to point the finger,
while the murdered victims are unable to do so. A great deal of convicted
murderers are sent to prison on circumstantial evidence with no eyewitnesses at
all. How then can you argue against the suggestion that a similar percentage of
convicted murderers are also innocent? Regardless of anything else, it's
probably a safe suggestion that a sizable percentage of people on death row are
possibly innocent.
> >However, the recidivism rate for murderers released on license
> >from a life sentence is vanishingly small -- less than 0.2%.
>
> Amazing, only one murderer in 500 murders again! All I can say is that
> the experience the USA has had with recidivism is radically different.
That's true, but potentially very unnecessary. Please read my post on
'Rehabilitating Violent Criminals'.
> >Under the previous regime these people would have been hanged.
>
> Then I have no doubt recidivism rate of murderers really would be
> vanishingly small.
So you are willing to kill a sizable percentage of innocent people to assure the
guilty are killed too?
> >I don't think the state should have the power of life or
> >death over its citizens,
>
> You're talking to the wrong man here, I don't think the state should
> have any power of any kind, I'm for privately produced law and private
> protection agencies.
Completely agree with you here. :-)
Paul Hughes
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