Re: Amusing anti-cloning arguments

From: Robin Hanson (hanson@econ.berkeley.edu)
Date: Wed Oct 28 1998 - 10:17:15 MST


Max More responds to Hal Finney:
>>Suppose a ship is being launched to the stars, at relatively slow speeds,
>>which will take centuries to make the journey. ...
>>Bringing kids into such an environment dooms them to life in space
>>as certainly as biologically adapting them would. If we accept the
>>historical precedent for parents to have children in environments which
>>limit their choices, shouldn't we accept that modifying them is equally
>>permissible?
>
>If a whole bunch of people are going into space for a long journey to
>another star, then it may sense for them to have children with no legs (or
>extra arms). ...
>This is different from the case as described by Pizulli. The legless people
>may be well adapted for a space voyage. But they may not want to go on the
>voyage. Then, they either must compelled or conditioned into going (both of
>which I find ethically unacceptable), or they will stay on Earth and find
>themselves physically disadvantaged.
>In one case, given that you're going on the trip, you are maximizing your
>engineered children's choices and abilities. In the other you are reducing
>them, perhaps drastically (if they are forced to go). So I see these as
>essentially different cases from a moral point of view.

Consider someone considering setting up a colony on the moon, where a legless
colonist could barely afford passage back to Earth, or around Jupiter, where
transportation is just too expensive for a legless colonist to afford passage
back to Earth. Max's moral calculus would encourage them to set up the colony
at Jupiter rather than the Moon, all else equal.

This seems perverse to me, and argues for Hal's position. Another example
would be: it is all right to make a Morlock tuned for mining deep beneath
the Earth, as long as you close off all the tunnels they could use to return
to the surface? I don't like the idea that you can do things to people which
would be considered bad in our environment, but which are all right as long as
you limit their options to move.

Robin Hanson
hanson@econ.berkeley.edu http://hanson.berkeley.edu/
RWJF Health Policy Scholar, Sch. of Public Health 510-643-1884
140 Warren Hall, UC Berkeley, CA 94720-7360 FAX: 510-643-8614



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