Re: pension (was: Re: Amusing anti-cloning arguments)

From: J. Maxwell Legg (income@ihug.co.nz)
Date: Tue Oct 27 1998 - 01:13:41 MST


Damien Broderick wrote:
>
> At 03:22 PM 10/27/98 +1300, "J. Maxwell Legg" <income@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >using the woefully
> >inadequate mental health laws to spring a trap on the unsuspecting
> >government. After I had accepted their pension because, using their
> >social constructions, they considered mind-uploading a thought disorder
>
> That's interesting. Are you saying that you currently receive a New
> Zealand invalid pension granted because you were medically evaluated as
> mentally incompetent to earn a living?

Yes, but it's a medical fact that when one has been systematically
prevented from working and cut into by a whole spectrum of insiders
ranging from Freemasons to the Chicago McMafia the criteria for
survival becomes a condition for living. As an autistic person I
have to think my way through circumstances that other people don't.
Maybe this is why I didn't go along with the corruption I found
inside the corporations who were my clients and felt obliged to
cause them to leave this part of the world. At least their capital
took fright and quit. Also, the fact that for twenty years my
thinking has been aligned to the mathematics of The Ingrid Thought
Processor has made my take on subjects very formidable if not
idiosyncratic.

>
> If so, do you concur with this assessment? If you do, should this have any
> bearing on our evaluation of your posts? Presumably you do *not* concur,
> given your use of the phrases `woefully inadequate' and `their social
> constructions' and your startling candour in mentioning the pension. Do
> you find any conflict in your personal values in accepting money under what
> therefore would be false pretences?

No conflict. According to Max More and Robin Hanson, capital is
not money and what I do involves the best use of my personal
capital and I feel no need to justify myself in market/monetary
terms. I have spoken out against the false limits of the money
measuring system and for this I am now thankfully left alone
and provided with the needs I have for food, shelter, communication
and computer equipment and most of all for mind uploading. I
don't pay taxes or pay salesmen to sell my software. I have
no management make-work problems that would only slow me down.
With nanotechnology on our horizon and other physical trends
truly suited to my software time is on my side and I feel no
need to try to convince capitalists of the need to grant
development funds for my technology, which technology, btw,
I anticipate will make the need for money funding a superfluous
and futile effort.

The government's official claim that I have a thought disorder
that makes me incapable of regular work is based on the
definition of a disorder whereby a claim is made that some
of my ideas have been consistently invalidated. I don't agree
with this invalidation process although I agree that it has
been pretty consistent and have produced evidence on my
website that, in my opinion, has likewise consistently
invalidated 'their social constructions'. So, this tit-for-tat
is my way of living in a disordered system and doing the work
that only I can do.

>
> These questions are not meant as a flame - I do not know Mr Legg, and I am
> genuinely intrigued by the issues raised. Perhaps I should make clear that
> over the last couple of decades I have eked out my own meagre earnings as a
> writer with the aid of five arts grants from Federal and State Australian
> governments, as well as a PhD scholarship from a national funding body. I
> favour some kind of anarcho-socialist polity, for want of a better term, in
> which a guaranteed minimum income is provided, without strings, to all
> citizens. I'm made uncomfortable, however, by the idea of someone
> contriving to gain such benefits by *pretending* to be either somatically
> or mentally ill. If such a misdiagnosis were imposed upon me, I hope I'd
> fight it tooth and nail, rather than accepting any benefits that happened
> to be entailed.

I don't pretend to be a high functioning autistic person. I am.
But you have no reason to be fearful that I will seek to harm
anyone. However if anyone tries too hard to block my progress
they can look forward to a visit from a constable. Maybe you
may care to read my disability application which shows "Computers
and people with autism... it's like a match made in heaven."

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~income/ekus/allowance.html

>
> If Mr Legg actually *is* sufficiently mentally ill to require an invalid
> pension, I apologise for the tenor of these sceptical remarks, and will
> read his posts with this proviso in mind.

Exceptional thinking abilities and a desire to stay out of
other people's potholes is what my posts convey. Unfortunately
you can't read my earlier posts because they are mostly
mis-registered in the extropy archives. I don't know why,
but even though a search turns up the correct heading the
body of the message points to quite a different message.
Has this happened to others or are my posts destined to be
forever censored?



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