Re: ExI = Truth First ?

From: Ian Goddard (igoddard@netkonnect.net)
Date: Fri May 15 1998 - 22:17:04 MDT


At 02:42 PM 5/15/98 CST, The SHO master c.c." wrote:

>If people had an open mind they could see that "truth is in the eye of
>the beholder".--this has always, will always, and should always be
>true (in my eyes).

  IAN: I think that that gets to the heart of
  the matter pertaining to why truth is seen
  as an unreliable standard... my truth, their
  truth, this truth, that truth. The same sub-
  jective morass applies to utility, their
  utility, my utility, this, that...

  But this picture paints a false "same as"
  relation between utility and truth. While
  utility can always be defined as subjec-
  tive (even a useful thing like a spoon
  is not useful if you prefer to eat with
  your hands), but truth is no so subjec-
  tive. If all can see that it's raining
  outside, but one guy says it's a sunny
  and dry day, we may say, "Well that's
  the truth for him," but I'm comfortable
  is saying that it is not THE truth, and
  thus I feel we can say truth is objective.

  I believe that we can have a scientific
  definition of truth (a one-one or maybe
  onto function, or both) that eliminates
  in one fell swoop this morass of subjec-
  tive truth, which I think is a direct
  threat to science and ethical standards
  as this leads to a "utility first" frame-
  work that leads to "anything goes."

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