Math Inquiry Irrelevant... ?!

From: Ian Goddard (igoddard@erols.com)
Date: Fri May 01 1998 - 11:44:01 MDT


At 12:01 AM 5/1/98 -0700, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:

>> The binary numeric notation used by computers uses two numbers,
>> 0 and 1, and is known as Base 2 (B2) (our traditional numeric
>> system is Base 10 (B10)). So what's the 1 digit of a Base 1
>> system, 0 or 1? The case for it being 0 and the case for
>> 1 both seem to be equally logical. Which case is true?
>
>That's not a math puzzle, it's masturbation. Give me a useful
>definition of what "base 1" means, and I'll give you whatever
>answer springs from that definition. Choose a different way
>to define it, and maybe you'll get a different answer. How
>could either possibly be relevant to anyone or anything?

  IAN: Perhaps your right and the structure of
  number systems is not important and thus not
  worth any analytical inquiry. It baffles
  me that several (perhaps most?) of the people
  on the ExI list believe science is not about
  truth, and defining the structure of number
  systems is as useful as masturbation.!?

  I recall Lee Daniel Crocker said last March:

>Don't tell me that holism is /true/. I don't give
>a damn. Tell me how I can /profit/ from it.

  IAN: You can profit from coercion, theft, and
  fraud, does that make CTF preferable to truth?
  Is X good, useful, and scientific only where
  it puts money in your pocket? It seems so.
  Maybe your right, maybe truth and inquiry
  should just be steamrolled by greed for
  that which is more profitable. :(

  I believe that profits can be a consequence
  of inquiry into the nature/truth of things;
  but truth inquiry comes first. Animals go
  out into nature looking for the useful;
  do they perform science? No. Science
  is the "nonuseful" asking of "Why
  is the sky blue, why is..."

  In the process of asking those questions
  and finding their answers, lo and behold,
  we discover new and useful things. The
  useful is a side effect of science.

  The spark of human intelligence is the
  ability to look beyond the utilitarian,
  to ponder the meaning, structure, and
  causation of the natural world, even
  if the answers don't increase profits.
  This is what seperates man from maggots.

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