From: Charity Hoff (chrhoff6@uwc.edu)
Date: Fri Oct 17 1997 - 08:55:12 MDT
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>extropians-digest Friday, October 17 1997 Volume 02 : Number 285
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:38:37 -0200
>From: "Prof. Jose Gomes Filho" <gomes@dpx.cnen.gov.br>
>Subject: Re: PROUD IGNORANCE
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>At 14:09 15/10/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>............ I said to the
>>charming young doctor, after she'd finished scrutinising my radiograms,
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>*** please, let's just call "doctor" who's really doctorate ....
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>>There's one other thing, quite unconnected - I had a blood test a few
>>weeks back and turned out to have shocking high cholesterol. Of course I
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>*** something that really works is "aubergine's tea" (for some
>weeks..). In doubt, just try...
> I suppose there's nothing against ... ( confirm, I'm
>not a physician...)
>
>...........
>>
>>Damien Broderick
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>Gomes.
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:07:30 -0400
>From: Ian Goddard <iam@doubled.com>
>Subject: Re: Arboreal COMMUNISM ?
>
> Regarding this post:
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> http://www.lucifer.com/exi-lists/extropians/2081.html
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> Thom Quinn (swo@execpc.com) wrote:
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> > What the data suggests is that the resources
> > in ecosystems are tightly linked, not communism!
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>
>IAN: Preslicely... The symbiotic relation between
>plants and fungi cited in the study is analogous
>to free-market exchange, not communism. The sub-
>sidy of smaller plants by fungi is analogous to
>an investment in future profits, not charity.
>
>The Science News article defined all that as
>"communist" and as "cooperative," as if the
>opposite of communism, free markets, are
>the opposite of cooperation. What could
>be further from the truth? Free association
>is cooperation, central planning is coercion.
>
>I have difficultly accounting for the basis
>of the false analogies in the SN article, which
>turn beautiful examples of market eco-nomics into
>the opposite... but wait a minute Ian, is not A
>also its opposite? Uh, oh ya. Hu, huh huh huh.
>
>Communism is an integral feature of the identity
>of free-market capitalism, for, apart from relation
>to communism, capitalism would not have the identity
>as "the best system." Without that identity attribute
>based upon real-world relations, the idea of communism
>could appear to be a beneficial theory, while capitalism
>perhaps an inferior system. Therefore, clearly, communism
>is within the IDentity Set (the set that contains all
>those feature from which identity A is derived)
>of capitalism as we know it, and vice versa.
>
>All that falls inside the ID Set
>of A is within the identity of A...
>
>Holistic IDentity
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>Opposite yet same.
>Not-self yet self.
>Nuts yet not-nuts.
>Not-A yet A.
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>****************************************************************
>Visit Ian Williams Goddard -----> http://www.erols.com/igoddard
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:06:25 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Geoff Smith <geoffs@unixg.ubc.ca>
>Subject: RE: Extropian Investing
>
>On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 jamesr@best.com wrote:
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><snip>
>> My investments tend to be somewhat time sensitive, but I have a couple
>> recommendations that are good at this moment:
>>
>> 1) Triquint Semiconductor (TQNT - 29-5/8 per share): Excellent
>> investment, both short-term and long-term. Expect at least 40% growth in
><snip>
>> 2) Informix (IFMXE - 7-1/8 per share): This is a more speculative
>> investment, but fairly sound. Wall Street often confuses management
>> problems (and Informix has had some serious ones recently) with product
><snip>
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>What stock exchanges are these two companies trading on?
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>thanx,
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>
>Geoff
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>
>ps. What is your recommendation for a mutual fund(s)?
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:01:36 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "Lee Daniel Crocker" <lcrocker@mercury.colossus.net (none)>
>Subject: What's up (or down) with extropy.org?
>
>I don't see anything like an official announcement from Max,
>but the extropy.org domain has been on hold at InterNIC for
>the last two days, no doubt causing lots of mail boncing and
>web choking. Is something changing?
>
>- --
>Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lcrocker.html>
>"All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past,
>are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified
>for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:45:47 -0700 (PDT)
>From: phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu (The Low Golden Willow)
>Subject: Re: What's up (or down) with extropy.org?
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>I couldn't post to extropy.org. extropy.com went right through. A bit
>later I think I saw Max posting to extropy.com as well.
>
>The majordomo software would probably have to be modified separately to
>insert "Reply-to: ...com"
>
>Merry part,
> -xx- Damien R. Sullivan X-)
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:30:36 -0600
>From: David McFadzean <david@kumo.com>
>Subject: Re: What's up (or down) with extropy.org?
>
>At 03:01 PM 10/16/97 -0700, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
>>I don't see anything like an official announcement from Max,
>>but the extropy.org domain has been on hold at InterNIC for
>>the last two days, no doubt causing lots of mail boncing and
>>web choking. Is something changing?
>
>I recommend using extropy.com until this can be sorted out.
>
>- --
>David McFadzean david@kumo.com
>Memetic Engineer http://www.kumo.com/~david/
>Kumo Software Corp. http://www.kumo.com
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:11:48 -0600
>From: David McFadzean <david@kumo.com>
>Subject: Re: What's up (or down) with extropy.org?
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>At 03:45 PM 10/16/97 -0700, The Low Golden Willow wrote:
>
>>The majordomo software would probably have to be modified separately to
>>insert "Reply-to: ...com"
>
>Done.
>
>- --
>David McFadzean david@kumo.com
>Memetic Engineer http://www.kumo.com/~david/
>Kumo Software Corp. http://www.kumo.com
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:49:14 -0500
>From: "Natasha V. More (fka Nancie Clark)" <natasha@extropic-art.com>
>Subject: Re: What's up (or down) with extropy.org?
>
>At 03:01 PM 10/16/97 -0700, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
>
>>I don't see anything like an official announcement from Max,
>
>Pardon me for answering on behalf of Max, but I feel that it would be better
>that I explain his lack of response to the query, than not. Currently, he
>is in Barcelona, Spain, speaking at an international conference on the
>future. I'm sure David McFadzean can handle the bottle neck.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Natasha
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>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:14:40 -0400
>From: Doug Platt <dplatt@voicenet.com>
>Subject: Lurk Mode Off for Selfish Reasons
>
>Greetings!
>
>Once upon a time, oh say back in 92, 93, I participated occasionally on
>this list. Many of the "old-timers" know me as I have attended west
>coast extropian parties, extro 2, participated in a cryonic suspension
>and promoted one particular extropian meme - wearable computers.
>
>Now, I find myself in the Boston area, after attending the International
>Symposium on Wearable Computing held at MIT over the last three days.
>Yesterday, during the questions part of a session moderated by Marvin
>Minsky, with a panel of science fiction authors (Gregory Benford, Vernor
>Vinge, and Frederick Pohl!), I thought I heard the melifluous tones of
>Sasha asking a typically intelligent Sashaesque question. I couldn't see
>him to well from where I was seated, but later on at the wearable
>computer fashion show, I bumped into him, sure enough.
>
>Now, I know it is very late notice, but I am staying in the Boston area
>till sometime Saturday evening, and would like to get together with any
>extro types I can, pretty much any time, anywhere, between now and my
>departure. I had to conserve financial resources and relocate from the
>Cambridge Marriot. I am staying at the Boston Motel in Weymouth
>617.337.5200, rm. 42. I'll be up late tonight, though probably on the
>net, but you can feel free to attempt to call me up to 2am. Or email me.
>I have with me some interesting artifacts from the history of wearable
>computing as well as my current rig, and I'm incredibly fun to be with,
>unless I'm wrong about that.
>
>In other news, if you would like to see some pictures from the wearable
>computer conference, you can find them at my website.
>
>It was great fun meeting and speaking with Vernor Vinge, Gregory Benford
>and Thomas Bass (author of Eudaemonic Pie and reporter for Wired). I had
>hoped to get Vinge's autograph on True Names, but alas I didn't get the
>chance. But Marvin Minsky had written the afterword to the first
>edition, so I got his autograph, and more importantly, some of his DNA.
>I doubt my protocol was very good; I had him rub his finger on his head
>and place it on a piece of sticky velcro which I then stuck to the
>inside back cover of the book. I didn't have any Benford books, but I
>got his DNA and sig on the back of True Names as well. This was a first
>for each of these guys. I also have Eric Raymonds's DNA (hopefully) on a
>signed copy of The Hacker's Dictionary. BTW, Benford will be
>re-releasing Chiller (an excellent cryo-thriller) under his own name
>shortly.
>
>That's all for now.
>
>Doug Platt
>dplatt@voicenet.com
>http://www.voicenet.com/~dplatt
>http://www.krash.org
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>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:10:30 +0000
>From: Damien Broderick <damien@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>
>Subject: Re: evolved new thread. was >H Freedom
>
>At 08:27 PM 10/16/97 -0500, Natasha wrote:
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>>If I live past my 121 or so years, and if I am cronically suspended
>
>Sorry, I can't help myself - that's *gotta* be one of the neatest typos
>I've ever seen. :)
>
>Damien Broderick
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>Date: 17 Oct 1997 13:17:55 +0200
>From: Anders Sandberg <asa@nada.kth.se>
>Subject: Re: evolved new thread. was >H Freedom
>
>Damien Broderick <damien@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> writes:
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>> At 08:27 PM 10/16/97 -0500, Natasha wrote:
>>
>> >If I live past my 121 or so years, and if I am cronically suspended
>>
>> Sorry, I can't help myself - that's *gotta* be one of the neatest typos
>> I've ever seen. :)
>
>I agree. It is on par with the cry "I DONT KNOW HOW I GOT SIGNED UP FOR
>THIS BUT I WANT TO BE DESIGNED!!!!" from somebody who accidentally got
>subscribed to the transhuman list.
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