From: Brian Atkins (brian@posthuman.com)
Date: Sun Oct 05 1997 - 18:40:39 MDT
Dan Clemmensen wrote:
>
> Brian Atkins wrote:
> >
> > Dan Clemmensen wrote:
> > >
> > > I find it very frustrating that the list spends so much time on
> > > irrelevant issues of economics and politics. The current economic
> > > and political environment will not change significantly prior to
> > > the singularity: there's not enough time, even if the event occurs
> > > in 2025.
> >
> > I have to disagree with you at least on the economics part. Before
> > we get to a singularity caused by nanotech or powerful enough
> > computers for human-level AI there will be major economic changes
> > due to the increasing cheapness of computing power and bandwidth.
> > These changes result in what Wired calls a "Network Economy" (see
> > Wired 5.09, "New Rules for the New Economy"); we already live in
> > the beginnings of this, everything on the net is part of it. Article
> > is here: http://wwww.wired.com/wired/5.09/newrules.html
> > It makes some interesting points, especially the idea that most
> > if not all commodities in our world are dipping towards being free.
> > Anything from a CD player to a modem to a stock quote online gets
> > cheaper. In the coming years your phone line will dip towards free
> > as they offer you better stuff(xDSL) for $$$. Reading and becoming
> > familiar with these ideas can give you a powerful edge- for me,
> > reading it triggered an idea for a new net-based business that
> > is starting up on Monday!
> >
> > As for politics, I can tell you from my experience that since I
> > ran into the net 4 years ago it has significantly changed _me_.
> > I think that over the next 25 years or so as the majority of
> > the planet gains net access (hopefully) there is the potential
> > for something to happen.
>
> Yes, many things will get a lot cheaper. Moore's law is an exponential,
> and has survived all attempts at constraint due to physical laws
> by hoppong from one technology to another. Yes, the underlying
> concept of economic value will change radically for a large percentage
> of current GNP. Yes, this is all revolutionary.
>
> Yes, our political world is changing in some ways due to bette
> information flow, and may change some more.
>
> There will be dramatic pre-singularity econimic changes, and
> possibly technology-driven political changes.
>
> My point is that we should be discussing these changes, not
> political and economic philosophy based on the current situation.
Full agreement here...
So how long do you think it will take for your car to become an
extension of your home entertainment system? It is one of my
current dreams (if I had the money) to form a company to network
my car to a CD jukebox at home so I can listen to any of my
CDs without having to cart them all around. Ditto for programming
your VCR from afar... The only real limitation I see is the cost
of wireless connections. But with companies here in Atlanta offering
unlimited airtime until Jan 1. and companies in SF like Metricom
offering unlimited 28.8 speed access for $40/month it seems
possible. All of this of course is an extension of the idea in
Negroponte's Being Digital book about moving bits not atoms...
--
The future has arrived; it's just not evenly distributed.
-William Gibson
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