From: Freespeak (f-prime@activist.com)
Date: Tue Sep 23 1997 - 00:00:46 MDT
At 03:37 PM 9/22/97, Hal Finney <hal@rain.org> wrote:
>
>I've been deleting the NSPIC stuff unread because it was (IMO) unreadable.
>Now suddenly a bunch of people I don't recall seeing on the list before
>are discussing it (half of whom seem like the original poster using
>psuedonyms, if you ask me). Did someone really invite people to join
>extropians in order to have a place to talk about this? How about asking
>the people here if they minded first?
>
I've been an extropian (at least in spirit) since I read
some of the early issues of Extropy magazine in 1990.
Recently I subscribed to this list and also joined the
Extropy Institute (online from the website) as a member?
In addition to the reasons I've already stated for having
this debate on the Extropy list, I offer two more:
1. Max More's article "Deep Anarchy" starts as follows:
"Two of the fundamental extropian values are responsibility for one's own
life and actions, and the determination to do away with constraints on
one's rational will.(1) I believe that the institutions of religion and
"the State"(2) are antithetical to these values."
I believe NSPIC addresses the factors that keep the two institutions
mentioned in place, and that there's a significant potential for the
debate to result in individuals increasing their effectiveness in
taking steps to increase their personal power and reduce the power
of the two said institutions.
2. On Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:32:46 +0100, "Chris R. Tame"
<Chris@rand.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>It is unfortunate that so many libertarians are fixated on economics and
>political philsophy. The need for a radically libertarian psychology and
>social psychology - and its application in methods of social change - is
>urgent. (Fredrick Mann made an interesting start in some of his writings
>of the 1970s).
>
Although it may not yet seem evident, "radically libertarian psychology"
issues are strongly related to NSPIC and are bound to come up during the
debate.
I've invited quite a few strongly fredom-oriented people to explore
the Extropy website -- partially with the hope that they would become
interested in the Extropian philosophy -- and to subscribe to the list
if they wanted to participate in the debate. I've no idea how many
new subscribers have joined as a result.
I assumed -- naively perhaps -- that there was no need to ask for
permission.
Frederick Mann
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